Ultegra update?

[ooo]

Personally can't wait for the new Ultegra because of the new hydraulic shifters which should be substantially lighter than rs685 or r785.

good to know

[Daniel1975]

Pfff, boring again. They really want Ultegra to look cheap so more people buy DA.

how does it look cheap? for it matte finish, different from the new gloss finish of DA, i think ultegra looks much better


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Boring design of the brakes and matt grey isn't very exiting IMHO.

[glam2deaf]

6800, looked really good, nice and simple nothing too flashy. This just looks like the next step. DA shaping with a more utilitarian aesthetic.

[morrisond]

6800, looked really good, nice and simple nothing too flashy. This just looks like the next step. DA shaping with a more utilitarian aesthetic.

DA was already looking pretty Utilitarian.

New Ultegra looks like old 105 kind of.

[flying]

R8000 leak?

http://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/produ ... ium=Social

[flying]

Looks like that link above was taken down

This was their original post
Looks like a Ultegra version of 9100

[jeffy]

cycling weekly bowing to pressure from Shimano .....

[flying]

cycling weekly bowing to pressure from Shimano .....

Probably right

[endershan]

Saw this new pic today. Source:http://weibo.com/kilino?topnav=1&wvr=6&topsug=1&is_hot=1#_rnd1493778118335
The blogger says that

Shimano's new Ultegra will be named R8000 and be released in June 2017. It will be similar to R9100 in design. Shimano will take actions on the leak, whoever did this will pay large amout of penalty and lifelong Blacklist.

A reply below says that

Shimano in Kunshan, Jiangsu, China is working with the police to find the leak.

[flying]

The blogger says that

Shimano's new Ultegra will be named R8000 and be released in June 2017. It will be similar to R9100 in design.

So this should mean a big discount on FC-6800 stuff soon?

[beeatnik]

Based on these "spy" shots, 8000 is to 9100 what Record is to Super Record. While 6800 was to 9000, what Chorus was to Super Record.

The 8000 Ultegra brakes are the money part.

[slake21]

cycling weekly bowing to pressure from Shimano .....

google has a cached version of that

road.cc still has an article up http://road.cc/content/tech-news/221907-new-shimano-ultegra-groupset

and photos on instagram https://www.instagram.com/p/BTZygEsgeP4/

[pdlpsher1]

A lot of these 'leaks' are done on purpose to create a buzz. Sram is famous for adding fake wires to the pre-production eTap.

[kidrob]

I don't understand why they wouldn't want this posted somewhere. ^^Free advertising and thus hype.

Its kinda ugly by the way, the sharp edges/form is really not appealing.

[morrisond]

Based on these "spy" shots, 8000 is to 9100 what Record is to Super Record. While 6800 was to 9000, what Chorus was to Super Record.

The 8000 Ultegra brakes are the money part.

When Shimano Starts incorporating Ceramic Bearings and more Carbon Fiber bits into Dura Ace then you can compare it to Super Record and Record. From a Materials standpoint Dura Ace is no better than Chorus at this point at best - both have very high quality Steel Bearings. Both have Carbon Shift Blades, Chorus has Carbon Cranks and Carbon in the RD. Not that Carbon is the be all and end all - but the Materials in Dura Ace don't seem to have as much value.

On Shift Performance and braking Chorus is exactly the same as Record and Super Record. There is no downgrade in performance going from Super Record to Chorus other than theoretically there is less drag in the Record and SR drivetrain's. Chorus is only 120 Grams heavier than Dura Ace and 174 grams lighter than Ultegra 6800. Chorus compared to Dura Ace is a good deal as the street price is usually $300-500 Less.

Campy would say Ultegra is equal to Potenza, and Dura Ace is equal to Chorus.

To make Dura Ace equal to Record you would have to upgrade to a Carbon Crank (Shimano did make one at one point) and change to "Normal Ceramics" in the Pulley's and BB. To upgrade to Super Record level you would have to upgrade to something like Ceramicspeed Bearings.