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 Post subject: 2017 Cervelo S5
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:25 am 
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http://www.bikeradar.com/road/news/arti ... isc-48559/

Amazing "21.3W gain over the previous generation"...

Wait a minute, Cervelo site says 21.4W vs S5 VWD (gen1) https://www.cervelo.com/en-ca/road/s-series/s5

Most of these gains are with the bars + wheels...

Is the 2017 S5 frame same as last year with just updated graphics and seatpost? Very misleading from both Bikeradar and Cervelo if it is.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Cervelo S5
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 4:34 am 
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dynaserve wrote:
Is the 2017 S5 frame same as last year with just updated graphics and seatpost? Very misleading from both Bikeradar and Cervelo if it is.


Appears that way, at first glance I thought the down tube was slightly different, but that's just the graphics after a few looks.

Makes sense given the 2015/16 was 21.3 watts faster than the previous model, and this 2017 is 21.4 watts faster .... basically the same bike.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Cervelo S5
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:55 am 
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dynaserve wrote:
Is the 2017 S5 frame same as last year with just updated graphics and seatpost? Very misleading from both Bikeradar and Cervelo if it is.


The S5 is still the same S5, and Cervelo still have the same blurb on their website that they've had since V2 launched in 2014. Bikeradar *f##k* up through laziness and ignorance. Nothing misleading from Cervelo.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Cervelo S5
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:00 am 
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Cut and paste journalism at it's worst.

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Cervelo S5
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 11:08 am 
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Cervelo themselves have been very unclear on this one, maybe even deliberately?

Our local Cervelo dealer also communicated this information to the customers, mostly about the "new layup", which, actually, is black on white stated in the Cervelo product 2017 catalogue, and, when I pointed their attention to the same wattage and stiffness increases numbers, which were communicated back in 2015, they still kept insisting that "the frame shapes are unchanged, but the carbon layup has been significantly improved".


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Cervelo S5
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 12:27 pm 
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Cervelo are just using the same blurb on the web and brochure as they did in 2016 and 2015. Everything they've put out specifically for the launch of the new models states that it's just a new colour, seatpost and build specs.

They certainly haven't been telling dealers that there's a new layup, it's not really Cervelo's fault if your shop has got that wrong. :noidea:


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Cervelo S5
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:03 pm 
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Frankly, prefer previous paint.
Hope they changed (improved) saddle clamping system.

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Cervelo S5
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1415chris wrote:
Hope they changed (improved) saddle clamping system.


It looks like it uses a FSA SL-K seatpost head... it works but I'm not a fan. It's bulky and if it's exactly the same has what FSA uses, it has little ribs to prevent unwanted saddle rotation from your weight. It kinda locks into those. Works great in that regard but it makes it almost impossible to keep it at an angle in between if you really want a very precise angle that is not into those preset notches. They're spaced quite close but still, not the best design IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Cervelo S5
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 5:18 pm 
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It's just as the marketing of washing powders, every time its new and better.
Noone believes, and so you should do with Cervelo marketing.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Cervelo S5
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:30 pm 
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Last year the cheapest version was £4k with ultegra. Now its £8k, admittedly with better wheels and di2 (only utlegra though). Makes the Canyon Aeroad look like a bit of a bargain.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Cervelo S5
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Also a power meter with the Ultegra version.

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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Cervelo S5
PostPosted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 10:23 pm 
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glam2deaf wrote:
Also a power meter with the Ultegra version.


Yeah, but the question is... why?

Powermeters are a bit like pedals... I'm gonna use mine anyway so don't bother.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Cervelo S5
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:28 am 
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It seems like cyclingtips is the only website taking a critical non lazy look at things :(


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Cervelo S5
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 1:47 am 
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Makes an aero bike, gives it a yuuge head tube and then adds spacers under the stem for the photo op? It feels like I'm taking crazy pills.

Oh, Canada.


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 Post subject: Re: 2017 Cervelo S5
PostPosted: Fri Nov 11, 2016 11:03 am 
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Anyone else think the new black/red/white colourway looks like a downgrade?

Spotted this on Instagram and thought it would have looked more premium for a new season's S5. (Yes, yes I know, everyone's sick of black - it does look more top-of-the-line though). No comment on that stem :P

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My feeling it the graphic designers over at Cervelo are going through an 80s phase, with all the black and red they're putting out.


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