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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 8:37 am 
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Hi forum
I am after some real world thoughts and weights on the following 2 bikes

A- 2017 Giant Defy advanced sl1
B- 2017 Bmc roadmachine 01 ultegra

Both are evenly specced with similar group sets but I would like to know weights and any individual reviews.

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 2:08 pm 
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The Giant will be significantly lighter. The wheels alone will be ~200g lighter (carbon vs alloy)


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Take a look at geometry of these bikes. You are comparing apples and oranges. Defy is true endurance bike with longer chainstay, longer wheelbase and taller headtube.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:58 pm 
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The BMC Roadmachine has indeed a very different geometry - quite like a race bike actually.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:51 pm 
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Don't forget on the BMC RM01, you can adjust the stack depending on your top cap configuration. Another great option to check out is the Focus Paralane. It has a great geometry, fairly light and tire clearance up to 35mm. I've been riding one for a few months now and absolutely love it, especially compared to the RM01. The bike is quite lively and a blast to ride.

http://road.cc/content/review/218220-fo ... ne-ultegra


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bearsdidit wrote:
Don't forget on the BMC RM01, you can adjust the stack depending on your top cap configuration. Another great option to check out is the Focus Paralane. It has a great geometry, fairly light and tire clearance up to 35mm. I've been riding one for a few months now and absolutely love it, especially compared to the RM01. The bike is quite lively and a blast to ride.

http://road.cc/content/review/218220-fo ... ne-ultegra


Adjustment of the stack/ reach via the cap is available on the Roadmachine01 and Roadmachine02.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 12, 2017 3:14 pm 
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I've sold a ton of RM01/RM02s and I think it's a great bike but IMO, it feels muted. The bike lacks the typical BMC handling and agility but it checks off a ton of boxes in other aspects.


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bearsdidit wrote:
I've sold a ton of RM01/RM02s and I think it's a great bike but IMO, it feels muted. The bike lacks the typical BMC handling and agility but it checks off a ton of boxes in other aspects.


Nice to have your opinion on the handling! :thumbup:
All reviews say they handle great but they are only "reviews" (sometimes sponsored from the manufacturer)

I have some more question as I am about to buy a RM02 (for my rain/ winter bike).

- The RM01 and RM02 have different frames but do they "feel" really different?

- I am sure that the RM01/RM02 are much different that the Teammachine SLR rim version in terms of handling/ agility but do they really differ that much compared to the Teammachine SLR in the disc version?

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The RM01 is definitely lighter and feels a bit snappier. However, the RM02 is a great option for a winter bike. Personally, I prefer the traditional stem configuration of the RM02 over the 01. I haven't had a chance to ride the new SLR01 Disc yet but compared to the previous model, there is a HUGE difference between the RM series VS SLR01. IMO, the SLR is such a versatile, race style bicycle. The frame is light, stiff, lively, handles great and is supremely comfortable. I've ridden pretty much every high-end bike available and I always go back to my SLR01. In fact, I loved the geometry so much, I had a custom Mosaic built off the geometry of a 54CM SLR01.

Either way, enjoy your new bike.


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bearsdidit wrote:
The RM01 is definitely lighter and feels a bit snappier. However, the RM02 is a great option for a winter bike. Personally, I prefer the traditional stem configuration of the RM02 over the 01. I haven't had a chance to ride the new SLR01 Disc yet but compared to the previous model, there is a HUGE difference between the RM series VS SLR01. IMO, the SLR is such a versatile, race style bicycle. The frame is light, stiff, lively, handles great and is supremely comfortable. I've ridden pretty much every high-end bike available and I always go back to my SLR01. In fact, I loved the geometry so much, I had a custom Mosaic built off the geometry of a 54CM SLR01.

Either way, enjoy your new bike.


Thanks for the feedback!


Would you personally prefer a Teammachine SLR with Disc and clip-on fenders (like the SKS clip-on Raceblades) or a Roadmachine with Disc and the integrated bmc fenders as a rain bike?

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Definitely the SLR01. Have a great riding bike with clip ons > average riding bike with dedicated fenders. If possible, definitely check out the Paralane. In theory, that could check off every box for you.


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bearsdidit wrote:
Definitely the SLR01. Have a great riding bike with clip ons > average riding bike with dedicated fenders. If possible, definitely check out the Paralane. In theory, that could check off every box for you.


Ok! I was about to order the Roadmachine but I will think again.

The paralane has unfortunately an endurance geometry.

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TonyM wrote:
bearsdidit wrote:
Definitely the SLR01. Have a great riding bike with clip ons > average riding bike with dedicated fenders. If possible, definitely check out the Paralane. In theory, that could check off every box for you.


Ok! I was about to order the Roadmachine but I will think again.

The paralane has unfortunately an endurance geometry.


Definitely, ride both bikes before pulling the trigger.


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