Colnago C60 vs Cannondale SS Hi Mod vs Canyon Ultimate

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fromtrektocolnago
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by fromtrektocolnago

Roel W wrote:I wouldn't go for the C60 option:
- the frame is overpriced
- the frame is heavy compared to the other 2
- the Ultegra groupset is already a few years old and Shimano will release a new Ultegra by next summer


9100 is not much of an improvement over 9000. same will be true when they up 6800. not a valid concern in my book. 6800 is a very good group set.
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by fabriciom

You did not list prices. Any any case I'm not a fan of Colgano or the "classic" look. If I was buying today I would get a De Rosa SK.

Buy what you like, not what is a "correct" bike. Otherwise you will always regret it.

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by sawyer

fromtrektocolnago wrote:Colnago has a beautiful ride. Paint job is special too. And as another poster wrote will not lose as much value and will be a bike you will want to ride year after year. I am biased however. I've been riding a C-59 for over three years and couldn't be happier. Also nothing wrong with Ultegra. Many high end bikes come so equipped. i wouldn't go any lower however.


Ultegra is heavy. This is WWs after all.
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fromtrektocolnago
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by fromtrektocolnago

sawyer wrote:
fromtrektocolnago wrote:Colnago has a beautiful ride. Paint job is special too. And as another poster wrote will not lose as much value and will be a bike you will want to ride year after year. I am biased however. I've been riding a C-59 for over three years and couldn't be happier. Also nothing wrong with Ultegra. Many high end bikes come so equipped. i wouldn't go any lower however.


Ultegra is heavy. This is WWs after all.



Meh. one thing to have fun with if this is your ultimate pursuit, but for many there are more practical considerations.
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3Pio
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by 3Pio

kgt wrote:
sawyer wrote:
kgt wrote:More expensive and heavier for a reason maybe...


Charged by the ounce? :wink:

- More expensive because it is handmade in Italy and not in China.
- Heavier because it is much more durable than the Cannondale or the Canyon. Thicker tubes, lugs, ribs, bb sleave etc. add to the weight as well.



I had the similar dilemma, and also considered Canyon Ultimate SLX based on the weight, specially that i really like the climbing.

I alsmot missed the C60 because i read how it's heavier then others, and also i was not sure how stiff is it for climbing. Also wanted to buy Bianchi Specialissima or Pinarello dogma F8, based on weight and climbing performances...Until.. I didnt have to try C60, Bianchi Oltre XR2, Specialized Tarmac and Dogma F8.

I realized that C60 is stiffer and better climbing machine then Dogma F8 or Oltre Xr2, and also quality is much much better then those..In same time offer woderfull ride, very comfortable but racing feeling.. I cant describe this way :), but it's magic ride.. The whole finish of C60 is much better quality then all other i had chance to check and ride in personal.

About weight.. At the end i realized that is not that heavier as i thought as first..


The real weights of C60 in 50S:

1. Frame

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This weight is with included headset bearings, Campagnolo Ultra Torque cups installed and seatpost clamp.

Also consider the positive thing of how C60 Bottom bracket is made and future proof because of this compared with frames with pressing cups directly to Carbon Frame.

And compare the real weight of Superlight Frames (which post their weight without bearings, without seatpost clamp, without paint...)


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So the real weight difference would be max 250-300 gm but loosing the super ride of C60, Quality (yes, it's really better made its not just the Italian Marketing (like Pinarello Dogma F8 for example) if u go with others. Perfect paint is just extra that make me like to watch the bike even i dont ride it.

I guess if u go with C60 with more Carbon colour and not Art Decor it would be a bit lighter.

Another thing that was very important to me.. Because C60 have a lot of sizes u can pick the perfect size that match ur body proportion, and the others u consider have less sizes so it can be a compromise sometimes piciking ur perfect size (which include huge amount of spacers or maybe very non proportional stem length)

This bike just making me to want to ride it.. Since 07 August when i assemble it, until yesterday i rode 1500 km with tight schedule and not so nice weather this period..


Of course this is just my experience and opinion :)
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by trimenc

I would go with the C60 as well, for many of the reasons already listed. If you love looking at a bike, you are more likely to want to ride that bike....and let's face it-they are beautiful bikes. Also, I have my Colnago C50 down to 12lbs, so a light weight bike is attainable if you want it, but the plush ride and build quality will always be there.

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by oraclesin

4.96Kg...LOL
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by richievet

test rode a c60 last week. Simply the most comfortable bike I have ever ridden (compared to my cervelo r5). Super stiff. Plus the frame is a thing of absolute beauty. Paid a deposit there and then- ernesto hopefully is fabricating my frame as we speak...

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by Lukester

sawyer wrote: Also the C60 is very probably less aero, which in this case isn't a huge deal, but it's another negative.
Having a less aero frame is a negative....And why is that?
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by spartacus

The colnago is heavier and holds its value better because it's built to last. I'm sure there are a lot of nice riding carbon frames that weigh less than the colnago but there's something satisfying about having a top of the line solidly constructed carbon frame.

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by Seedster

C60 with campy. The rest don't compare


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by richievet

Seedster wrote:C60 with campy. The rest don't compare


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oh.. I cant decide whether to go etap or DA 9150 DI2 on mine.....

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by moonoi

richievet wrote:
Seedster wrote:C60 with campy. The rest don't compare


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oh.. I cant decide whether to go etap or DA 9150 DI2 on mine.....


eTap, forget Di2

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by richievet

moonoi wrote:
richievet wrote:
Seedster wrote:C60 with campy. The rest don't compare


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oh.. I cant decide whether to go etap or DA 9150 DI2 on mine.....


eTap, forget Di2



groan...but ive tested both and still cant decide..

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