Who produces Canyon frames?

[toiyuet]

So if this is true then, even though I have a Canyon Ultimate AL and a Colnago C60, I actually own two Giants?! (I've heard the rumour than Colnago C60's are also produced by Giant - not that I believe it...)

http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=137054

[tomtom]

I don't know if Giant makes Canyons or not but certainly the quality of a high end Giant frame is way better than that of an SLX.

And what is better and why is that never an issue in any test I have read in Dutch, German, Belgian, French and English magazines....?! Seems to me that some people on the forum just unfounded want to "nag" about Canyon, strange !

[Delorre]

I don't know if Giant makes Canyons or not but certainly the quality of a high end Giant frame is way better than that of an SLX.

And what is better and why is that never an issue in any test I have read in Dutch, German, Belgian, French and English magazines....?! Seems to me that some people on the forum just unfounded want to "nag" about Canyon, strange !

I own a CF Slx 2014, and I can tell you, the finish (esp. paint) is NOT on par with anything like Scott, Trek or others...

[r4nd0mv4r14bl3]

I own a CF Slx 2014, and I can tell you, the finish (esp. paint) is NOT on par with anything like Scott, Trek or others...

You mean the one in your sig? It's matt black not paint. It's always irregular and occasionally see-through. Or what do you mean by finish?

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[topflightpro]

It's not a secret,that one brand producing their frames in other brand factory. Like Specialized. Specialized is producing (and few others brands too) in Merida factory. Why??,beacouse for them it's cheaper,and easier to get support in one of the biggest (or the biggest) company who producing carbon frames,and other carbon stuff.

That's because Merida owns 49% of Specialized.

[Delorre]

I own a CF Slx 2014, and I can tell you, the finish (esp. paint) is NOT on par with anything like Scott, Trek or others...

You mean the one in your sig? It's matt black not paint. It's always irregular and occasionally see-through. Or what do you mean by finish?

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Yep, that one. Indeed, its's a matt finish, but, the finish was very uneven, going from satin to almost 3000 grid rough in some places. And, the mat finish turnedvery easyly into satin or gloss on places where there is some rub from clothing, such as top tube. After a few months, I decided to redo the whole frame with some heavy rubbing compound, followed by a finishing coumpound to get an even, satin finish. It tourned out really well and now at least, the finish remains as is. The more recent Slx bkies I saw at bike shows seemed to be better finished as mine I have to admid, so maybe they solved that 'problem'

[tarmackev]

I think he means that if you take a peak inside the frames of different models from Scott, they all look like this:



What that is implying is that Scott is at least using the same manufacturer and most likely ensuring all models are built using the same method.

This is what I mean.
Recently we had a creaky Canyon, we tried everything and eventually stripped the frame completely. When we put lateral force through the frame it creaked, just a creaky frame.
We've had two Canyon frames in for routine services and that had small cracks, no crash, just cracks on the chain stay and seat stay respectively.
Both were warrantied by Canyon I believe.
We've had another in recently that seemed to have residue in the frame that snagged an internal cable, it took my colleague forever to sort it.
I was told by Giant HQ in the UK that they made Canyon frames, later while talking too a guy at Trek HQ in the UK he informed me that Giant definitely aren't making the frames.
I was just curious.


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[AJS914]

(I've heard the rumour than Colnago C60's are also produced by Giant - not that I believe it...)

I've never heard that rumor and it would be a giant PR problem for Colnago if it was true and it got out. I mean their whole marketing effort for this $6000 retail frame is "fully handmade in Italy". If it wasn't, it would be a disaster.

[sawyer]

I've owned two Giants and two Canyons and I'd take Canyon any day

Both have seemed pretty good quality if not perfect to me however. Obviously both are ridden to the highest standard in professsional cycling

I have heard of a few more failures over the past couple of years with Canyons, but then there are far more of them around

More a question of ride characteristics

I too have heard the rumour re Colnago produced by Giant

[KWalker]

It would make sense that Giant makes them as they both ride very stiff and very dull.

[wingguy]

I too have heard the rumour re Colnago produced by Giant

Giant definitely makes some of the conventionally moulded Colnagos. Given how it's made I don't see where they'd be involved with the C60 though.

[sawyer]

It would make sense that Giant makes them as they both ride very stiff and very dull.

That's my experience with TCRs too ... Canyons are pretty lively by comparison

[Hovis]

I have an aeroad SLX and the attention to detail and quality of finish is top notch...

[haydos]

It's my understanding that Giant makes all Colnago's except for the c60 and Master.

[kgt]

They make all Colnagos that don't look like a Colnago. That makes sense...