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Ozrider
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by Ozrider

Anyone using Lake Cx401 or 402's.
I'm looking for feedback on long term durability
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sungod
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by sungod

i got some cx402 speedplay a few weeks ago, so not a long term review by any means...

the heel pads wear very fast, they are replaceable but at least in europe seem unavailable at retail and maybe not even from distributors, though i've been told they can be ordered from the usa

i haven't noticed any signs of wear on the toe pad

i got caught in a light shower, not a soaking, mine are white and they wiped clean without any marks, the edge of the leather tongue had stretched/crinkled though that's really minor

but i'm concerned at how long it's taking to get them comfy - or if they ever will be - i took one pair back as in one shoe there was a distinct lump in the cf on the inside which pressed on my toe (manufacturing fault, but it isn't what i expect at the price) the new ones are fine in that respect but i'm still finding it hard to get the fit right

i have heat-moulded them, which has helped, initially the edges of the cf sole really dug in at the sides

the remaining problem seems to be due to needing insoles with high arch support, i've got a few different ones but so far none are 'just right' in the 402s, i'm just off for another ride to see if the latest tweaks help

i think if you are ok with the lake footbeds this wouldn't be an issue, but it seems the combination of high arch support and the shape of the cf sole complicates things

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GothicCastle
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by GothicCastle

I ride the CX 331 shoes because they are built on a wider last than the 4xx models. Comfortable for me, particularly with different insoles.

I ride them daily, don't take special care of them, ride in rain, etc... no issues with reliability for me.

I ride speedplays, though, and find that the cleat tends to slip on 4-hole lake soles. Annoying.

sungod
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by sungod

latest iteration of insole and moulding helped the fit a lot

mine are 4-hole too, i've not had the cleats slipping, though as i'm using wedges both sides and a shim maybe that gives more grip on the sole

bahn
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by bahn

I have the CX402s and they are so unbelievably comfy. Had them about 18 months now. I tried on my old SIDIs the other day and they didn't feel great at all. Maybe just the different but felt the arches were not supported. All day comfort for sure. Easy to get them tight enough with the boas. Fit like a glove and supported evenly all over.

I bought them from a shop specialising in bike fits etc and they have the expertise to fit the shoes. It gave me a lot of confidence to have someone take the heated shoes out of the oven and mould them to my feet with confidence. How easy is to do yourself or without experience - well I don't know.

As previously mentioned..then the heel pads wear out super fast. They are also a pain to replace. If you wear down the rubber surround, rather than just the small plastic heel, then you need to cut it off with a craft knife and superglue on a new one. Tedious. Probably better to replace the heel before it wears too much or better still, like my missus does, walk on the front of the foot (speedplay covers) and don't touch the heel down at all. Her's are two years old and look brand new.

Oh... and I in the UK...heel pad sets can be ordered for £5.99 each. You want to speak to a lake stockist who can get them in from the distributor.

I snapped my boa wire the other day. it looks like the wire wears the outer plastic off where it enters the boa dial when fully opened. Lucky it was just the last bit so I could retie and reuse the existing wire. I then checked the other shoe and it had done exactly the same thing and was not far away from a repeat. So suggest this is checked every so often. Don't loose the boa screwdriver tool...!

All in all. love them and worth the heel and boa negatives.

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by sungod

bahn wrote:...
Oh... and I in the UK...heel pad sets can be ordered for £5.99 each. You want to speak to a lake stockist who can get them in from the distributor.
...


that's good to know!

fwiw when i swapped the pair with the lump, we agreed change over the heels so i kept the worn ones on the replacement shoes, they used a heat gun to release the adhesive - they said there's a video online that shows the process

sungod
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by sungod

i'm still trying to adjust the fit on the right foot, wondering if anyone has advice for this...

i need insoles with a lot of arch support (g8 2620 with the highest insert)

the shoes are the right size, certainly length is as it should be with a bit of space, though maybe a bit wider than needed (they are standard width)

problem is that my foot is 'rotating' so that the toes move to the outside wrt to the bike, then there's a gap on the left, while on the outside edge my toe gets forced against the side

this seems to be due to the combination of the insole and the way the lake itself slopes down towards the outside in the midfoot area

the left foot with same insole is ok

i've tried remoulding but not sure which way to move which bit, and i've lost track of what i've tried

any ideas?

jrmynthn
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by jrmynthn

Here is a link to my in-depth review of the Lake CX-402. Hands down my favourite shoe of all time. It's like a beautiful little carbon slipper. Love mine so much I have 2 pairs and a set of CX237 for every day.

Lake CX402 review

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by ironmancycle

I went full custom, and I hope to have mine in a week. Best shoes ever!


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sungod wrote:i took one pair back as in one shoe there was a distinct lump in the cf on the inside which pressed on my toe (manufacturing fault, but it isn't what i expect at the price) the new ones are fine in that respect but i'm still finding it hard to get the fit right
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Wow! :thumbup: A friend of mine said something very similar about his Lake carbon sole on one shoe, but I thought he was imagining things, and almost said as much to him. I kinda humoured him by suggesting he get a more comfortable insole.
I think he had the second model down, not the molding ones.

He ended up taking them back because he felt that they didn't have sufficient heel support (or "wrap-aroundness"),
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sungod wrote:i'm still trying to adjust the fit on the right foot, wondering if anyone has advice for this...

i need insoles with a lot of arch support (g8 2620 with the highest insert)
A lot of people don't like my "rustic" fixes for expensive stuff, but I make my own arch supports out of bits of rolled up foam. It requires some trial and error, but it's effective and obviously cheap/free

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by boysa

I'm looking at picking up a pair of Lake CX402, and because I'm ordering online I'm trying to get the sizing correct first-time around. The issue for me is the width. Length-wise I'm either a 41.5 or a 42 (currently using 42 in Shimano 321, although if I bought another pair of these I'd go down to a 41.5). With the width, however, I'm measuring my foot to be around 102mm across. Lake lists the standard shoe as only accommodating 89-91mm in those sizes. According to their chart, I guess I'd need a wide shoe, but frankly I've never worn a wide shoe in my life. Do they normally run narrow?

I'd be afraid of getting a shoe too wide for my foot, even though with molding I guess it can be adjusted. I certainly appreciate any help with the sizing.
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sungod
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by sungod

i found the lake size guide guide was way out (far too small), if ordering online make sure there's a good returns policy

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by boysa

IOW, the shoe runs smaller than the guide describes for each size? Or, another way would be to say I might want to go up from what they recommend? Thanks!
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sungod
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by sungod

can only relate to what i found, i measured using the lake guide (both feet, also tried at different times of day), i was a few mm under lake's measurements for size 45

way to small, tried 46, also too snug (wearing thin summer socks), ended up with 47 as half-size wasn't available to try

i'd say their width measurements vs. size came out true, but length way out

internal volume seemed much greater for the size than other shoes i've used (s-works, bont), probably good for people with plump feet

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