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PostPosted: Sat Jul 02, 2016 2:15 pm 
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i like dura ace. Because I like smooth riding.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 12:23 pm 
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What kind of riding do you do? Across a few bikes I have 7900, 6700 and Red 22

For commuting / being in traffic Shimano is better for me because I can shift and brake at the same time.

For longer rides not much difference in terms of minute to minute usage. Yes I do get the wrong shift now and then with Red.

Do prefer the shape of the Red 22 shifters to the Shimano.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 1:39 pm 
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Either way, you will be happy.

If you cant decide, it would be a good idea to choose an option your LBS recommends.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 2:39 pm 
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Both work fine but DA is a higher quality product IMO.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:14 pm 
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DavidMLee wrote:
Either way, you will be happy.

If you cant decide, it would be a good idea to choose an option your LBS recommends.


That way, 9 times out of 10 you will end up with shimano as that is what most of the mechanics have experience with. a bike with components that the mechanics are unfamiliar with is often a *beep* bike.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 03, 2016 11:13 pm 
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Probably that's the case most of the time, but this shop actually said that they think it's easier to keep sram in tune and it's less prone to cable stretch. All of this without having a real interest in pushing me in that direction.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:14 am 
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Sram Red is ok but i prefer Shimano Dura Ace


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:03 am 
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That should help, Dura Ace is ok but I prefer Sram Red ;)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:35 am 
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Exactly, pick what you prefer.

Every mechanic should be able to work with Shimano, so that should be o.k.
SRAM is a different story, you need a competent mechanic, I've had loads of trouble with my FD until I switched mechanics; worked like a dream after that.

So if your mechanic is comfortable with SRAM, pick whatever you prefer visually and ergonomically.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:30 am 
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The SRAM FD isn't that hard to set up. Just have to know how to adjust. What's really important is the cage angle when it is pushing the chain into the big ring. You tweak the angle based on how the chain is or isn't catching on the ring.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:10 am 
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Red 22 vs older (pre 11 speed shimano) isn't a good comparison. IMHO dura ace 7900 was a step backwards from 7800. 9000 is much better and smoother than 7900.

I have red 22 on one bike and dura ace 9000 on another. I think they re both very good and happy with both.

There differences between them will boil down to personal preference.

The one piece where red is definitely superior is its cassette. Issues with the dura ace cassette are well documented on this site. So I end up running red cassette on all my wheeels

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:54 am 
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I've had SRAM Red 2010 and currently have Red 2014 on my Madone
I have Dura Ace 7800 on my steel bike and Dura Ace 9000 on my Parlee.
I will probably be replacing the SRAM Red with Dura Ace 9100 next year.
The SRAM works well and has been pretty reliable, I just prefer the smoother shifting of Dura Ace.
ETap is however tempting, but Di2 will probably be the option I go for, just to maintain the same shifting pattern between my different bikes.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:57 am 
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There is more that just a function issue to deciding what group works for you. There is the ergonomics of the shifters. How well do they fit your hands and which feels most comfortable. Fit and comfort is first, function is second.

I ride newer Red shifters but do travel and rent bikes which always come with Shimano. The Shimano does shift pretty smooth as does a properly tuned Red group. On rough road I noticed Shimano gets more frequent accidental shifts since its a bit more sensitive. I'm personally not that crazy about the brake lever that pivots since it gives me a vague felling when you go have to firm up your grip on rough roads. Red just fits my hands better. I don't find Shimano shifting any better or faster just quieter but the hollow Red cassette do up the shifting noise. Once again for me Shimano ergonomics gives me numb hands and Red does not.

Red is lighter.

Test ride them both and use what fits your body best and looks and functions well to you.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:15 pm 
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2lo8 wrote:
The SRAM FD isn't that hard to set up. Just have to know how to adjust. What's really important is the cage angle when it is pushing the chain into the big ring. You tweak the angle based on how the chain is or isn't catching on the ring.

I followed the instructions to the T and took my time. I have a Rival22 FD and it really shifts lightly and fast. I have Ultegra 6800 on the other bike and I'm not sure which shifts better. Actually I bet the Rival does and mostly because the Ultegra could get tuned a bit better. Install and tune it right and they will both shift flawlessly and effortless.


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SRAM eTap.

Simple shifting and easy install for mechanic frame.


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