SWorks Venge Vias or Pinarello F8

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phallenthoul
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by phallenthoul

No clue how good the new venge is, but you can't possibly go wrong with F8, which is almost perfect in every aspect..

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by matrix

SLCBrandon wrote:I just built my second ViAS, this time with eTap. Needless to say it was SO much easier than my first build with mechanical Red. I'm super biased and love the ViAS and its my road race bike this year but have a lot of respect for the F8. I think either would be a fantastic purchase.



Definitely do post the photos and link me to that thread! True.. Really can't go wrong with either bike, but I'm on the shorter side. Have my doubts on the 44cm Pinarello geometry vs 49cm Sworks.

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by matrix

dereksmalls wrote:What do you use your Kestrel for, generally road riding/racing or tri/tt? Is it set up as a tt bike with tt bar set up or do you hav eit set up for road and clip on a set of tt bars?


It's a TT bike setup. Did my first Half Ironman with it.

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by AZK

spartan wrote:dogma is lighter/stiffer/more compliant/superior brakes and only 2 watts penalty in aero.

when you factor in the lighter total bike build weight it is a no brainer.


The ViAS is stiffer and more compliant according to Tour

Steering column rigidity Nm/*

ViAS 98
F8 100 +2%

Lateral fork stiffness N/mm

ViAS 71 +48%
F8 48

BB rigidity N/mm

ViAS 79 +23%
F8 64

Seat post deflection N/mm

ViAS 233 20% more compliant
F8 293

edit* damn numbers
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by Stolichnaya

duvivr6 wrote:Pina F8, because I dislike ugly as sin bikes!


But both bikes check that box... :P

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by DartanianX

The VIAS is amazing, climbs really well, all be it not quite as lively as a Tarmac, but in a straight line climbs beautifully and great power transfer whilst still being an amazing bike I happily ride every day of the week, and I have a S-WORKS Tarmac to choose from.

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by moonoi

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With its ridiculous 75Kg rider weight limit and equally ridiculous price tag?

I'd stick with the normal F8


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by SLCBrandon

AZK wrote:
spartan wrote:dogma is lighter/stiffer/more compliant/superior brakes and only 2 watts penalty in aero.

when you factor in the lighter total bike build weight it is a no brainer.


The ViAS is stiffer and more compliant according to Tour

Steering column rigidity Nm/*

ViAS 98
F8 100 +2%

Lateral fork stiffness N/mm

ViAS 71 +48%
F8 48

BB rigidity N/mm

ViAS 79 +23%
F8 64

Seat post deflection N/mm

ViAS 233 20% more compliant
F8 293

edit* damn numbers


Well.....I mean.....if you're gonna use facts.......

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by KidKarbon

Im a Specialized fanboy and rode the Vias at a recent test day, I found the ride to be less than inspiring and I would not give up my Venge or Tarmac for it.

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by goodboyr

I test rode one the other day. Very jarring and rigid front end, soft back end. Just didn't feel too precise handling wise. And the brakes were decidedly inferior. Very poor modulation. Initially nothing then a sudden grab.

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by kgt

Obviously the reasons why Contador, Nibali and Aru much prefer their Tarmacs...

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by DartanianX

Mechanic Quality = Brake Quality.

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by han1337

Mechanic Quality - Amount of Integration = Brake Quality


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by bas

Going through more or less the exact same decision, Venge has grown on me, particularly if my fit allows the use of the flat handlebar. The 25mm rise version is ugly IMO.

Unfortunately can't ride either which is frustrating so having to rely on everyone else's opinions.

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by gfeldy

The F8 will be more versatile. The Vias is pretty one dimensional (but pretty bad ass)
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