Cannondale Supersix HiMod 2017 - with etap and ultegra disc

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nemeseri
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by nemeseri

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2017 Supersix HiMod - Size 48
Dura Ace R9100 groupset
Ultegra Cassette 11-28 / Chain
Dura Ace 9000 compact crankset + Pioneer PM
Zipp 303 NSW clinchers
Ritchey Superlogic Evocurve Handlebar - 38cm
Ritchey WCS C220 Stem - 110mm
Cannondale Save seatpost
Specialized Toupe Pro saddle - 143mm
Continental GP4000S II tires (23 front / 25 rear)
Ultegra 6800 pedals
K-Edge Pioneer mount
Tune Wasserträger 2.0 bottle cages
Lizard Skin DSP 1.8 bartape
Continental Race Light tubes

Weight: 6.72kg / 14.81 lbs

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dereksmalls
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Nice. That's exactly the frame I've got on order. I can't wait for it to get here and start my build

illskittlz
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by illskittlz

nemeseri wrote:Image

2017 Supersix HiMod - Size 48
Dura Ace R9100 groupset
Ultegra Cassette 11-28 / Chain
Dura Ace 9000 compact crankset + Pioneer PM
Zipp 303 NSW clinchers
Ritchey Superlogic Evocurve Handlebar - 38cm
Ritchey WCS C220 Stem - 110mm
Cannondale Save seatpost
Specialized Toupe Pro saddle - 143mm
Continental GP4000S II tires (23 front / 25 rear)
Ultegra 6800 pedals
K-Edge Pioneer mount
Tune Wasserträger 2.0 bottle cages
Lizard Skin DSP 1.8 bartape
Continental Race Light tubes

Weight: 6.72kg / 14.81 lbs


Sick. Though with that build I would suspect the weight to be less than that. Do you know what weight of your frame and fork?

nemeseri
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by nemeseri

illskittlz wrote:
nemeseri wrote:Image

2017 Supersix HiMod - Size 48
Dura Ace R9100 groupset
Ultegra Cassette 11-28 / Chain
Dura Ace 9000 compact crankset + Pioneer PM
Zipp 303 NSW clinchers
Ritchey Superlogic Evocurve Handlebar - 38cm
Ritchey WCS C220 Stem - 110mm
Cannondale Save seatpost
Specialized Toupe Pro saddle - 143mm
Continental GP4000S II tires (23 front / 25 rear)
Ultegra 6800 pedals
K-Edge Pioneer mount
Tune Wasserträger 2.0 bottle cages
Lizard Skin DSP 1.8 bartape
Continental Race Light tubes

Weight: 6.72kg / 14.81 lbs


Sick. Though with that build I would suspect the weight to be less than that. Do you know what weight of your frame and fork?


Sorry, but didn't weigh them. It was a complete bike and I swapped a few things on it. You might note that the zipp 303 nsw clinchers are not super light with a 1433g + strip (measured). So if you go with something shallower or a set of tubulars you can easily hit 6.5kg with absolutely no compromise in the components. Also the save seatpost is a 350mm one and I haven't cut it yet.

illskittlz
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by illskittlz

nemeseri wrote:
illskittlz wrote:
nemeseri wrote:Image

2017 Supersix HiMod - Size 48
Dura Ace R9100 groupset
Ultegra Cassette 11-28 / Chain
Dura Ace 9000 compact crankset + Pioneer PM
Zipp 303 NSW clinchers
Ritchey Superlogic Evocurve Handlebar - 38cm
Ritchey WCS C220 Stem - 110mm
Cannondale Save seatpost
Specialized Toupe Pro saddle - 143mm
Continental GP4000S II tires (23 front / 25 rear)
Ultegra 6800 pedals
K-Edge Pioneer mount
Tune Wasserträger 2.0 bottle cages
Lizard Skin DSP 1.8 bartape
Continental Race Light tubes

Weight: 6.72kg / 14.81 lbs


Sick. Though with that build I would suspect the weight to be less than that. Do you know what weight of your frame and fork?


Sorry, but didn't weigh them. It was a complete bike and I swapped a few things on it. You might note that the zipp 303 nsw clinchers are not super light with a 1433g + strip (measured). So if you go with something shallower or a set of tubulars you can easily hit 6.5kg with absolutely no compromise in the components. Also the save seatpost is a 350mm one and I haven't cut it yet.


Those wheels at 1433 are pretty light, esp considering the arrow benefits. They are lighter than the previous gen 303's

fosen
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by fosen

nemeseri wrote:Image

2017 Supersix HiMod - Size 48
Dura Ace R9100 groupset
Ultegra Cassette 11-28 / Chain
Dura Ace 9000 compact crankset + Pioneer PM
Zipp 303 NSW clinchers
Ritchey Superlogic Evocurve Handlebar - 38cm
Ritchey WCS C220 Stem - 110mm
Cannondale Save seatpost
Specialized Toupe Pro saddle - 143mm
Continental GP4000S II tires (23 front / 25 rear)
Ultegra 6800 pedals
K-Edge Pioneer mount
Tune Wasserträger 2.0 bottle cages
Lizard Skin DSP 1.8 bartape
Continental Race Light tubes

Weight: 6.72kg / 14.81 lbs


Why only 23 mm at front? Is there not room for anymore?

fosen
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by fosen

Do anybody have any info about the stock carbonwheels? Hollowgram.. Any weights?

nemeseri
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by nemeseri

fosen wrote:Why only 23 mm at front? Is there not room for anymore?


It's more aero and lighter!

But I do have issues with the rim rubbing the chainstays a bit.
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nemeseri
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fosen wrote:Do anybody have any info about the stock carbonwheels? Hollowgram.. Any weights?


I have to remove the tires, but I will weigh them in a couple of days.

nemeseri
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by nemeseri

fosen wrote:Do anybody have any info about the stock carbonwheels? Hollowgram.. Any weights?


I made a separate thread about them, it might be useful for others too: viewtopic.php?f=113&t=142479&p=1274652#p1274652

TheDarkInstall
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by TheDarkInstall

nemeseri wrote:
fosen wrote:Why only 23 mm at front? Is there not room for anymore?


It's more aero and lighter!

But I do have issues with the rim rubbing the chainstays a bit.


Can you expand on this point?

The rear rim (not tyre) rubs on the chainstays? How wide is the rim and how much clearance is in the frame? Surely Cannondale is allowing for wide rims and tyres in 2017...

nemeseri
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by nemeseri

TheDarkInstall wrote:
nemeseri wrote:
fosen wrote:Why only 23 mm at front? Is there not room for anymore?


It's more aero and lighter!

But I do have issues with the rim rubbing the chainstays a bit.


Can you expand on this point?

The rear rim (not tyre) rubs on the chainstays? How wide is the rim and how much clearance is in the frame? Surely Cannondale is allowing for wide rims and tyres in 2017...


In a different thread I corrected myself, but not here, so it's worth do that here too. So I was sure that I had some chainstay rubbing with my 303 rims (the rim is 28.5mm wide at the widest point...). BUT as it turned out I was wrong, it was brake track rubbing mixed with some very weird vibration. I had to adjust my brake pads and that fixed the problem. So there is no clearance issue, the zipp 303 clears the frame with 25mm gp4000 contis. It seems to be quite tight at the rims, but works fine and there is plenty of room at the tire.

TheDarkInstall
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by TheDarkInstall

nemeseri wrote:
TheDarkInstall wrote:
nemeseri wrote:
fosen wrote:Why only 23 mm at front? Is there not room for anymore?


It's more aero and lighter!

But I do have issues with the rim rubbing the chainstays a bit.


Can you expand on this point?

The rear rim (not tyre) rubs on the chainstays? How wide is the rim and how much clearance is in the frame? Surely Cannondale is allowing for wide rims and tyres in 2017...


In a different thread I corrected myself, but not here, so it's worth do that here too. So I was sure that I had some chainstay rubbing with my 303 rims (the rim is 28.5mm wide at the widest point...). BUT as it turned out I was wrong, it was brake track rubbing mixed with some very weird vibration. I had to adjust my brake pads and that fixed the problem. So there is no clearance issue, the zipp 303 clears the frame with 25mm gp4000 contis. It seems to be quite tight at the rims, but works fine and there is plenty of room at the tire.


Thanks.

So, with a 28.5mm wide rim, and 25mm tyre, how many mm gap do you have each side as the wheel goes through the chainstays?

nemeseri
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by nemeseri

TheDarkInstall wrote:So, with a 28.5mm wide rim, and 25mm tyre, how many mm gap do you have each side as the wheel goes through the chainstays?


At the rim there is like 2-3 mm gap each side. That's the closest it gets, given the shape of the chainstays widen at the tires. There is plenty of room with 25s around the tires. Officially the 2016+ supersix might be able to run 28s, but their support said that with certain brands there is a chance of some rubbing under heavy load.

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TheDarkInstall
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by TheDarkInstall

nemeseri wrote:
TheDarkInstall wrote:So, with a 28.5mm wide rim, and 25mm tyre, how many mm gap do you have each side as the wheel goes through the chainstays?


At the rim there is like 2-3 mm gap each side. That's the closest it gets, given the shape of the chainstays widen at the tires. There is plenty of room with 25s around the tires. Officially the 2016+ supersix might be able to run 28s, but their support said that with certain brands there is a chance of some rubbing under heavy load.


Useful info, thanks.

I have a 2014 Di2 Evo, and it fits 28mm wide rim / 25mm tyre on the front fine. 25mm wide rim / 23mm tyre on the rear is the max though. This is not that bad, but I would like wider. Cheers for checking!

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