Crumpton vs Argonaut ?

Back by popular demand, the general all-things Road forum!

Moderator: robbosmans

eaglejackson
Posts: 259
Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:26 am
Location: PNW

by eaglejackson

I'm thinking of getting a new frame. I'm currently riding a Parlee Z5 SLi (medium) and really like it. But I have an itch for something special, handmade. Top of my consideration list are the Crumpton T5 Superlight and the Argonaut. Perhaps also a Parlee Z-Zero, though I probably want something different, just 'cuz. Why would you choose one versus the other?

coppercook62
Posts: 382
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:58 am

by coppercook62

Crumpton but i am biased I have 2

by Weenie


Visit starbike.com Online Retailer for HighEnd cycling components
Great Prices ✓    Broad Selection ✓    Worldwide Delivery ✓

www.starbike.com



User avatar
fletch62
Posts: 492
Joined: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:44 am
Location: Oztralien

by fletch62

What about a Berk or Cryptic?

User avatar
kkibbler
Posts: 905
Joined: Tue Sep 09, 2014 9:30 am

by kkibbler

I'm considering a custom from Craddock/Filament myself. Crumpton and Argonaut are certainly more established, tho.

eaglejackson
Posts: 259
Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:26 am
Location: PNW

by eaglejackson

coppercook62 wrote:Crumpton but i am biased I have 2

Why did you choose Crumpton? And what do you like about it so much? What were your previous bikes? Thanks...

coppercook62
Posts: 382
Joined: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:58 am

by coppercook62

I have a berk as well. I had a cervelo r3. I wanted something that wasnt big brand something from a small builder. Nick is a one man show, like most of small builders. He as well as Jure where super easy to work with. The reason i bought 2 was the first one, the sl had enve tubes. The T5 he made the tubes in house and i liked that. The T5 has tubes that arent perfectly round and taper towards seat tube kinda like cervelos r series. I truely believe you cant go wrong with any small builder. You develope a realtionship with them over the build. Appleman, Craddock etc.

User avatar
boysa
Posts: 1430
Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 10:03 pm
Location: Too far from my bike.

by boysa

Another vote for Crumpton, for the same reasons coppercook62 outlines. I chose Nick because he's a one man show... now even more than ever! I have an SL, but if I was looking for something new I would not hesitate to give him a call.
"Deserve's got nothing to do with it." William Munny

LionelB
Posts: 1595
Joined: Sun Oct 05, 2008 8:09 pm
Location: Aix en Provence

by LionelB

coppercook62 wrote:I have a berk as well. I had a cervelo r3. I wanted something that wasnt big brand something from a small builder. Nick is a one man show, like most of small builders. He as well as Jure where super easy to work with. The reason i bought 2 was the first one, the sl had enve tubes. The T5 he made the tubes in house and i liked that. The T5 has tubes that arent perfectly round and taper towards seat tube kinda like cervelos r series. I truely believe you cant go wrong with any small builder. You develope a realtionship with them over the build. Appleman, Craddock etc.

Interested to hear how the T5 compares to the SL. Love my SL. Can't go wrong with Nick.

Broady
Posts: 676
Joined: Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:02 pm

by Broady

Would definitely consider the Filament. Being UK based I may be biased admittedly. They look amazing from a quality standpoint, saying that, Berk, Crumpton and Argonaut are all strong choices.

Bely
Posts: 949
Joined: Fri Mar 15, 2013 11:55 am

by Bely

I would go crumpton and I don't own one but currently am waiting on an argonaut


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Current
Festka Scala | Pego Respo | English V3 | Colnago EPS Erik Zabel | Colnago V4rs

Incoming

eaglejackson
Posts: 259
Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:26 am
Location: PNW

by eaglejackson

Bely wrote:I would go crumpton and I don't own one but currently am waiting on an argonaut


Interesting... If you could do it over again, would you go Crumpton instead of Argonaut, and why?

eaglejackson
Posts: 259
Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2014 5:26 am
Location: PNW

by eaglejackson

coppercook62 wrote:I have a berk as well. I had a cervelo r3.


Thanks. How do you compare your Crumpton to the Berk? If you could only choose one, which and why? Very much appreciated...

campbellrae
Posts: 545
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:20 am
Location: Glasgow, Scotland

by campbellrae

Last year I went through the same decision. I ended up going with Argonaut. Mainly because I wanted an ISP and Nick wouldn't do that, and I honestly just preferred the look of the Argonaut frame - it was the one I found myself looking at more when messing around online. The NAHBS Layup awards might have helped sway me a little as well.

I'm certain I would have been as delighted with a Crumpton as I am with the Argonaut though!

shillc
Posts: 45
Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:51 pm
Location: Toronto

by shillc

I went through the same decision process last year. I have a custom Parlee Z1 and wished to try another well regarded builder.
I admired Nick Crumpton's bikes for a long time going back to 2008 when I got the Parlee and despite the encouragement of a local shop in obtaining an Argonaut, I felt Nick won out for me based on the years of experience with carbon fiber and varying techniques to frame building.
I had also wished to get an integrated seatpost, and slowly convinced him to do it.
He then released the T5 ultralight variation before the built and I opted for that and he agreed as long as it was no ISP.
I am very happy.
Ride quality is excellent on par with my Z1 with a nearly identical build and geometry. They do everything well.

greentimgreen
Posts: 224
Joined: Thu Jul 24, 2014 8:36 am

by greentimgreen

What a great problem to have! I wouldn't swap my Z-zero for anything, but i've heard many times that the z5 is at least 90% as good in feel and performance. For that reason alone I'd change brand if i were in your shoes. On a recent trip to San Fran I stopped in at Above Category and saw an Argonaut they had there - I spent 10minutes just looking at it. An amazing bike, superb attention to detail.

However, given my choice again, I'd go Passioni.
2014 Parlee Z-Zero DADi2 & ENVE (6.2kg)
2015 Colnago C60 RSWH Campag Chorus & Mavic SLR (c.7kg)

by Weenie


Visit starbike.com Online Retailer for HighEnd cycling components
Great Prices ✓    Broad Selection ✓    Worldwide Delivery ✓

www.starbike.com



Post Reply