Branded frames with threaded bracket

[havana]

Are there still high end branded carbon frames with a threaded bracket? I know most Dengfu / open mould frames can be ordered with a BSA bracket.

- Pina F8 > ITA

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[kkibbler]

Colnago

(You didn't specify threaded = BSA68)

[havana]

By threaded I mean ITA or BSA.

In other words NO PRESS-SHIT

[beanbiken]

Pinarello, Italian threaded

Oops, see you have already listed the F8

[Mockenrue]

Legend are BSA unless otherwise specified.

[kgt]

gramcarbon.com

[EdGr]

I recall seeing Franco still used threaded shells, no?

[fromtrektocolnago]

Now that Colnago gave it up on the c60, I think Pinarello is the sole example left.

[MoreRideTime]

I believe that you can get a threaded BB in a Sarto if you choose their custom geometry option(s).

[PinaRene]

I think if you ask Jurre ( Berk Carbon ) he can help you if you want a BSA bracket.

[userfriendly]

My Cinelli Saetta frame is BSA threaded. One of the reasons I bought it (external routing for mechanical groupsets being the other reason).

[Stefano]

Threaded frame purists, what do you think of T47?

http://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear/pre ... t-standard

[havana]

Seems like a good standard. Now let's hope manufactures will actually start using it.

[Calnago]

T47 would be awesome, if adopted. It solves the only issue for frame builders using a narrow (68mm shell) of relatively small diameter. That issue is that there simply is not enough real estate down there to manipulate and join today's bigass tubes. That is really the only issue for modern frame builders when it comes to using a small diameter, narrow shell BB. You could also use 30mm spindles with proper size bearings more readily, but I think the main issue is getting more surface area down there to work with in joining tubes. So, personally I'd love to see it, and for small custom frame builders of metal frames, I think it's a no brainer to go this way in the future.
But for the big box high volume manufacturers of carbon frames... Not likely. It would simply add back costs of manufacture that they have gotten rid of (to the detriment of the consumer unfortunately). I think the tolerances of carbon frame shells are getting better at least, but threaded shells are still, in my mind, much more bullet proof from install right on through the life of the frame.

On another topic of evolution in frame manufacturing, I'd also like to ask what people think of the move away from a steel crown race, pressed onto a finely milled fork steerer to simply a molded crown race that fits directly into the lower headset bearing. Seems like it's not as well sealed and I wonder if over time scoring or abrasion of the carbon surface may cause issues down the road. The only advantage I see to this trend is primarily, again, to the manufacturers in that it reduces their costs. Of course they will market it as a weight reduction but for the most part I just think they're not even talking about it... just quietly making the change and hoping no one questions it. It's not really new, but certainly prevalent these days. Thoughts?

[userfriendly]

Nothing stopping them from using BSA threads in bigger shells. Take a look at Mason Cycles. Big ass tubes on oversized BB shells, yet BSA threads.

I do agree though that this T47 standard looks pretty neat.