Dura Ace 9000 levers and cassette question

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alkoro
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by alkoro

Hi,

I am hoping that someone who uses Dura Ace 9000 groupset can help me.

I recently bought Dura Ace 9000 groupset. I was sure that I would get the latest parts, but now I am not sure.
I know that Shimano made some revisions to the 9000 group set and I am hoping that somebody can help me to determent if the parts are first gen (bad design).

Here are pictures of the 9001 leaver. I am 90% sure that this is the first model (9000) that caused the shifter cable to break:
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Do the new 9001 have 9001 written here?
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Here is also a picture of the cassette:
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I think that this is the first generation that some users had problems with.
I have seen some pictures where the carbon spindle broke. If i remember correctly this product wasn't recalled, but users who had problems got the latest
revision of the cassette. Now i am concerned that the carbon spindle will fail. (new revision uses aluminium).

Did Shimano changed anything else on the 9000 groupset?

Any help would be much appreciated.

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wheelsONfire
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by wheelsONfire

Can't say for sure about the cassette, but i think the later is using 2-bolt design and this is 1-bolt.
The shifters you have are standard STi9000. The 9001 version has 9001 printed at it.
I have both 9000 and 9001 versions so i should know.
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alkoro
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by alkoro

Thanks very much for the quick reply.

The problem is that the leavers were sold as 9001. I wouldn't really cared if the 9000 didn't eat through the shifter cable.
Don't really know where the LBS got this, as the 9001 was introduced around 2 years ago.

Any opinions on the safety of the cassette?
I initially wanted to go with the ultegra cassette, but LBS gave me a very good price on the groupset.

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wheelsONfire
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by wheelsONfire

No, i have the DA cassette. The old design and i have never had any issues with it.
I swapped for Edco, but that was not really needed. Only thing i know for sure, your shifters are not 9001 version.
If he says they are, he is wrong. I have no clue if DA groupset ever has sold with Sti 9001 as a complete groupset.
I bought mine separate. Built a second bike and i just bought, RD+FD and shifters.
Rest i use is KMC chain, Edco Monoblock cassette and FSA K-Force Light BB 386 EVO crankset.
The other bike is standard DA 9000 but with Edco cassette.
No problems otherwise with 9000 shifters eating cable.
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Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)


Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.

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by fromtrektocolnago

Many are of the opinion that the Ultegra cassette is the better option over the Dura Ace cassette. When i upgraded I kept the 6800 cassette which works very well. Maybe you can sell the Dura Ace casette and purchase a cheaper 6800 version and have change left over.
Colnago C-59 (Dura Ace)
Firefly(Ultegra)
Colnago C-64 disc(ultegra) with Bora 35 wheels

junchen
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by junchen

fromtrektocolnago wrote:Many are of the opinion that the Ultegra cassette is the better option over the Dura Ace cassette. When i upgraded I kept the 6800 cassette which works very well. Maybe you can sell the Dura Ace casette and purchase a cheaper 6800 version and have change left over.

+1. Get ultegra and cast your worries about the longevity of the DA cassette away. Probably can get enough from the sale of DA cassette to fund 2 ultegra cassettes.

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by hmai18

9000 vs 9001 lever: the change is some additional coverage for the shifter internals and some shape changes. Both still have the same 90 degree bend internally that places stress on the cable.

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by fromtrektocolnago

junchen wrote:
fromtrektocolnago wrote:Many are of the opinion that the Ultegra cassette is the better option over the Dura Ace cassette. When i upgraded I kept the 6800 cassette which works very well. Maybe you can sell the Dura Ace casette and purchase a cheaper 6800 version and have change left over.

+1. Get ultegra and cast your worries about the longevity of the DA cassette away. Probably can get enough from the sale of DA cassette to fund 2 ultegra cassettes.

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the sole advantage of a dura ace cassette is weight reduction. it was an easy decision for me to skip dura ace chain and cassette.
Colnago C-59 (Dura Ace)
Firefly(Ultegra)
Colnago C-64 disc(ultegra) with Bora 35 wheels

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