Which Cockpit - Deda, 3T or Other?

[markgoldstein]

Hi,

I'm looking to change the all-aluminium cockpit on my SuperSix EVO HM Sram Red - image of stock bike here: http://cdn.mos.bikeradar.imdserve.com/i ... 60-540.jpg

The Cannondale bars, stem and seatpost currently weigh-in at around 640g.

The Deda alternative (Superleggera bars, Superleggero RS seatpost, Superleggero stem) comes in at 455g and costs £270.
The 3T alternative (Ergosum Team bars, Stylus 25 seatpost, ARX II stem) comes in at 510g and costs £250.

I was going to plump for Deda, but have read some pretty negative feedback here. Any other similar alternatives that I should consider?

[prendrefeu]

Help us help you.

Do you have a budget?
Do you have limitations on how you purchase things?

Is having the same brand that important to you?
Yes: you're severely limiting yourself.
No: good, they aren't paying you to advertise for them anyway and you don't work for them (otherwise you would already be promoting them).

What are you concerns?
Weight: mix & match pieces per your budget. Research options here on WW, Google, etc:. Look up verified weights on individual components.
Aesthetics: your choice.
Aero: Aerohandlebars will help reduce watts lost to air resistance (ie, you can potentially go faster with the same expenditure of energy)
Comfort: that's up to you. Traditional? Compact? Ergo? Degree of stem?

[markgoldstein]

In answer to your questions...

Budget?
£300 max for all three parts.

Do you have limitations on how you purchase things?
No.

Is having the same brand that important to you?
Yes.

Aesthetics - needs to match the rest of the bike.

Compact, shallow drop bars. Not aero.

6 degree stem.

[wingguy]

3T Team red matches the rest of the bike well, the handlebar's nice, the seatposts are kinda clunky and the stem is a wash with the already very light OE 'dale stem.
I have the same bike and I went full 3T, but partly that's because I got the seatpost free from a friend. Buying the whole thing I'd go 3T bar, Ritchey Superlogic post* because it's sleeker, comfier and much lighter in real world weights and either leave the 'dale stem on there or get a matching ARX team if needed to change the stem for length anyway.

* (I don't see any aesthetic problem with mismatching seatposts with cockpits)

[kgt]

Is having the same brand that important to you?
Yes.
Aesthetics - needs to match the rest of the bike.

Amen

[mimason]

I don't know what the cost is in £ but ENVE stems are brilliant stiffness to weight and comes in 6 degrees. The bars also seem to meet your needs... the drops flair out so a 42cm on the hoods becomes 44 in the drops. I think the reach is 79 iirc.

ENVE and Deda stems have a lot of similarities. Seatpost option also exists.

3T and Deda would be on my list to review as well.

[mariovalentim]

Love my deda Superleggero stem and seatpost, what kind of negative feedback have you heard?

The only thing that I've read that I haven't tested to see if it's true, but I don't disagree is the fact that Italian manufacturers seems to give lower than the actual weight of their parts.

[MartijnE]

Zipp Service Course SL beyond black would complement your bike quite nicely I guess. Excellent components. Stiff stem and bars (sl80 has a nice compact shape) and very well made. If you can stretch your budget go with the carbon seatpost. Just my two cents.


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[AJS914]

I pick bars first because bend/reach to me is more important than matchy matchy or light weight. I have 3T stealth bars, a Deda superleggera stem, and a Colnago seatpost. The bars and stem actually match nicely as both are light on graphics which is what I wanted. The seatpost came with the frame and I might swap it some day.

[BRM]

Make a shortlist with the best matching bars for your personal use at top.
And no thats not about Aesthetics, weight, price or matching other components but FIT.

There you should start . . . .

[r_mutt]

pick your bar and match the rest to suit. i pick deda.

[VTBike]

My vote goes to Deda. Their superleggero/leggera line is pretty sweet. Been using the stem in 140 for about 7 months - i'm 200 lbs, and the thing is rock solid, and beautiful. Seatpost is also top notch. Can't speak for the superleggero bars - I don't think its improbable to say that the handful of people who had trouble with them were torquing improperly.

I definitely think Deda gets the nod on style, and weight is really competitive. Price can't be beat either.

[CBJ]

I would think you would take off the decals with acetone on if the stem fits. Most likely the same weight as what else you will find.

[topflightpro]

If you stick with an aluminum stem, you can put a lot more money into the bars and post. You won't be sacrificing many, if any, grams going with a nicer aluminum stem.

The Ritchey C260 line is actually pretty light. My 120 weighed in at 115g.

Fairwheel also lists a plain black Kalloy stem that comes in pretty light.

As for acetone, some aluminum stems have laser etched graphics that cannot be removed.

[Marin]

but ENVE stems are brilliant stiffness to weight

No they're not, they're mid field and pretty heavy, see http://blog.fairwheelbikes.com/reviews- ... em-review/

I wouldn't be surprised if the came dead last in stiffness/weight per Dollar.