Velonews: Trek Madone vs. Specialized Venge ViAS

[53x12]

So does the Venge? The bikes tested, the Trek was $4800 more than the ViAS. Four thousand eight hundred.

Did Specialized not have an S-Works ViAS to lend to Velonews at the time?

Madone 9.9 Di2= $12,000
S-Works Venge ViAS Di2= $12,900

No difference in the testing of the S-Works ViAS or the Pro ViAS as both are the same frame. Just the builds being different.

Madone is still the winner over the ViAS if comparing those two. But I would still take a Canyon/Cervelo/Felt over either of them.

[spdntrxi]

+1. With almost the same aero as an s5, except with crap brakes . [emoji85]

My LBS mech's hate the venge vias.. stem is a nightmare. Brakes are shit , because they joke the bike is made to go fast not stop.

[jimborello]

I would never ever buy one of those bikes, Im pretty sure most WW wouldnt buy them either.

[Kayrehn]

I would never ever buy one of those bikes, Im pretty sure most WW wouldnt buy them either.

I like the Madone - it's fast, it's comfortable, it looks good to me, why not. There's really no point to you commenting on this thread if you're not interested in either isn't it...

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[53x12]

Im pretty sure most WW wouldnt buy them either.

There are WW members interested in both of those frames and members that own one of either of those frames. From my feel, I think most WW lean towards the Trek.

[wheelsONfire]

The guys i have actually spoken to, only have had an interest towards Madone.

[ergott]

I think most WW lean towards the Trek.

When was the last time that statement was true?

[topflightpro]

The Madone also thought out the wiring and battery placement really well. I think the removable plate on the downtube to access wires/cables is really quite an advantage over the Vias, at least for set up.

[Ahillock]

I think most WW lean towards the Trek.

When was the last time that statement was true?

Yeah strange times indeed. The Emonda ALR looks like a nice alternative to those not wanting a CAAD. The Emonda looks like a nice option for those wanting to build a WW build. Trek has really stepped up their game.

From Specialized, that Allez Sprint is really their only road frame that interests me. Otherwise it is meh, for me.

[joepac]

Interestingly enough, Kittel has been riding on a Vias without the cables hidden...

[mile2424]

Pro's have a cable port frame so that they can run FSA cockpits for sponsorship obligations

[Calnago]

Even though sponsorship obligations dictate a lot of what happens, I would bet that the externally run cables allow for kind of a win win situation here, allowing for significantly better performance, so the riders are happy, mechanics are happy, FSA is happy, and Specialized can save face over the substandard brake performance of the convoluted internal cable runs.

[joepac]

Even though sponsorship obligations dictate a lot of what happens, I would bet that the externally run cables allow for kind of a win win situation here, allowing for significantly better performance, so the riders are happy, mechanics are happy, FSA is happy, and Specialized can save face over the substandard brake performance of the convoluted internal cable runs.

I was wondering why TFR keeps the integrated cables handlebar/stem since it's such a pain; I have to assume it's a combination of Trek being the title sponsor and adequate braking.

[Calnago]

@joepac: I'd agree with your assumption.

[spartan]

no....

i suggest everyone read the excellent ridemedia #70 issue(buy digital version online). they built up both the madone/vias.

conclusion - madone brakes smooth/little friction, venge mediocre. a very good read. they also test a fuji sl/dogma f8.



cavendish comments about the braking on the vias was accurate. chrisyu's excuses about proto parts was to blame was complete BS...predict a new improved venge vias will be introduced this fall LOL

Even though sponsorship obligations dictate a lot of what happens, I would bet that the externally run cables allow for kind of a win win situation here, allowing for significantly better performance, so the riders are happy, mechanics are happy, FSA is happy, and Specialized can save face over the substandard brake performance of the convoluted internal cable runs.

I was wondering why TFR keeps the integrated cables handlebar/stem since it's such a pain; I have to assume it's a combination of Trek being the title sponsor and adequate braking.