U shape/toroid profile aluminium
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I'm looking at 4 set of wide, somewhat aero to handle crosswinds better than my 27mm deep V shape wheels. I weight 165lbs/75kg and prefer to overbuild (e.g. Front 24 radial / Rear 28 3x lacing). I keep coming back to FLO 30 due width, shape and 28h 3x lacing but difficulty to mounting tire is a con, especially during rainy and cold winter training rides. Next runner up DT Swiss R460 rim.
$645 DT Swiss R460 24h/28h with WI T11 hubs (~1580 grams, easy to mount tire, U shape/toroid profile) http://www.novemberbicycles.com/alloynimbus
$500 Kinlin XR31t 20h/24h with Aivee SR5 hubs (~1500 grams, easy to mount tire, somewhat U shape/toroid profile) http://www.fairwheelbikes.com/xr-31t-aivee-wheelset
$780 H Plus Son Archetype 24h/28h with WI T11 hubs (easy to mount tire, 3x lacing, far from aero due to V shape) http://www.prowheelbuilder.com
$550 FLO 30 20h/28h with loud Vortex hubs (~1625 grams, difficult to mount tire, 3x lacing, more aero) http://www.flocycling.com/wheels_front_flo_30.php
$645 DT Swiss R460 24h/28h with WI T11 hubs (~1580 grams, easy to mount tire, U shape/toroid profile) http://www.novemberbicycles.com/alloynimbus
$500 Kinlin XR31t 20h/24h with Aivee SR5 hubs (~1500 grams, easy to mount tire, somewhat U shape/toroid profile) http://www.fairwheelbikes.com/xr-31t-aivee-wheelset
$780 H Plus Son Archetype 24h/28h with WI T11 hubs (easy to mount tire, 3x lacing, far from aero due to V shape) http://www.prowheelbuilder.com
$550 FLO 30 20h/28h with loud Vortex hubs (~1625 grams, difficult to mount tire, 3x lacing, more aero) http://www.flocycling.com/wheels_front_flo_30.php
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Have you looked at the Pacenti SL23 yet?
http://www.pacenticycledesign.com/index.php/products/rims/sl23
http://www.pacenticycledesign.com/index.php/products/rims/sl23
Yes, I have been eyeing SL23 V2 for quite some time. Its off my list for being thin and PITA to mount tire on it. Screenshot below. Many reported cracks.
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I only have experience with the DT 460 rim. It's a really big value for price kind of rim. Quality is top notch. Can go tubeless with it is a bonus. I'd say it's average as far as tire mounting ease goes. Not too hard but not the easiest either. I enjoyed using them quite a bit until I trashed my front rim in a spill. Just haven't got around to replacing it yet. Great rim for training rides. And if I had to choose between the SL23 Pacenti (have a set of the V1 rims) and the DT R460 it would be the DT. Slightly better quality and less than half the price.
Or the 460g Aileron rim from Velocity. It's sleeve-jointed but not welded though.
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Aileron is out, it's disc only http://store.velocityusa.com/p/aileron- ... eron?pp=12
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The Aileron is a disc brake rim. The Quill fits the bill.
http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/quill-622
Haven't read anything about ease of tyre fitting though.
http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/quill-622
Haven't read anything about ease of tyre fitting though.
Anyway, I have Pacenti SL23s in 20/24H and that's the rim I would recommend.
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RimClencher wrote:The Aileron is a disc brake rim. The Quill fits the bill.
http://www.velocityusa.com/product/rims/quill-622
Haven't read anything about ease of tyre fitting though.
These Quill do look interesting with internal width 21 mm!
$630 for wide and U shape/toroid profile, 1600 grams. Rim is really light ~415 grams, sidewalls look pretty thin like on Pacenti SL23. I'm somewhat concerned as other rims 470+ grams.
In-house hubs must be heavy ~100 grams weight penalty on these. 24h/28h Pacenti SL23 (~425 grams) with WI T11 hubs ~1500 grams.
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[quote="mpulsiv"]Yes, I have been eyeing SL23 V2 for quite some time. Its off my list for being thin and PITA to mount tire on it. Screenshot below. Many reported cracks.
You are both out of date WRT v2 tire mounting and grossly exaggerating a rarely reported problem with v1 cracking that occurred with some big guys on 24 spoke rims.
You are both out of date WRT v2 tire mounting and grossly exaggerating a rarely reported problem with v1 cracking that occurred with some big guys on 24 spoke rims.
There's sometimes a buggy.
How many drivers does a buggy have?
One.
So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekiIMh4ZkM
How many drivers does a buggy have?
One.
So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekiIMh4ZkM
How about the Hed Belgium Plus?
I have a set of the Flo 30s. They have been a great training wheelset. I haven't noticed any particular difficulty mounting tires. They're reasonably fast wheels for an aluminum rim, crosswinds are utterly unnoticeable.
I'm building up a new set of training wheels and I picked the Hed Belgium Plus. I've received rims but not hubs yet, so I can't offer ride impressions. The rim itself seems nice. The central point of the profile is quite a bit sharper than the Flo 30, but the transition from brake track to the rest of the rim is smooth with no ridge.
I have a set of the Flo 30s. They have been a great training wheelset. I haven't noticed any particular difficulty mounting tires. They're reasonably fast wheels for an aluminum rim, crosswinds are utterly unnoticeable.
I'm building up a new set of training wheels and I picked the Hed Belgium Plus. I've received rims but not hubs yet, so I can't offer ride impressions. The rim itself seems nice. The central point of the profile is quite a bit sharper than the Flo 30, but the transition from brake track to the rest of the rim is smooth with no ridge.
* You really have issues with a 27mm rim in crosswinds?
* Every rim that has noticeable aero properties will be carbon, or incredibly heavy, see Flo. No way would I get a 30mm "aero" alu rims when I can have 38mm carbon rims that weigh 280g less per pair.
* Every rim that has noticeable aero properties will be carbon, or incredibly heavy, see Flo. No way would I get a 30mm "aero" alu rims when I can have 38mm carbon rims that weigh 280g less per pair.
I didn't mention that I'm on standard 13 mm inner and 19mm outer rim wrapped in Conti 25mm tire. Talk about bulb shape...
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