Gwinner bottle cages
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- Stolichnaya
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So, back in the summer I picked up two of these cages from Gwinner.
These are also available under some other brands I have seen on the net, but I went direct to Gwinner. (Apparently this is an auto sector company)
Each one came with a small sticker on it with a handwritten weight - one stated 6.9 grams and the other 7.0 grams.
For the weight the price was quite acceptable. I recall mine were about €35 per piece.
I have been using them on the bike I have set up for climbing (which I am still terrible at, by the way.)
Some thoughts on them:
- They have a more polished look than expected but still some rough edges - which is expected for something this light.
- The rough edges have not hindered bottle insertion, but I don't make it a habit yet of jamming bottles down super hard. The more I ride them the more I have to admit that my fear of 'fragile' carbon pieces is perhaps overdone. They have a flexibility that can take a good hit.
- With no bottle loaded it would seem that the tension is not enough to hold a bottle securely, but oddly enough, I have not had an ejection yet and I have to ride over cobbles in any direction I choose from my ride starting point - both downhill and up.
- They do not require bottle cage bolts that are flush or low profile as the bottle does not abut the bolt area when installed.
- I have only used 500 to 600 ml bottles so far. As there is no top retention lip on these cages, I would hesitate to use a full 750 ml bottle.
- There is certainly more flex in the cages when the bottle is full than an Arundel (zero flex) but there is no visible swaying with the Gwinners.
- For a climbing bike the cages are appropriate. I personally would not use these in a criterium, where smacking a bottle down is a regular occurrence.
I will try to upload a shot of these on the bike eventually.
- Stoli
These are also available under some other brands I have seen on the net, but I went direct to Gwinner. (Apparently this is an auto sector company)
Each one came with a small sticker on it with a handwritten weight - one stated 6.9 grams and the other 7.0 grams.
For the weight the price was quite acceptable. I recall mine were about €35 per piece.
I have been using them on the bike I have set up for climbing (which I am still terrible at, by the way.)
Some thoughts on them:
- They have a more polished look than expected but still some rough edges - which is expected for something this light.
- The rough edges have not hindered bottle insertion, but I don't make it a habit yet of jamming bottles down super hard. The more I ride them the more I have to admit that my fear of 'fragile' carbon pieces is perhaps overdone. They have a flexibility that can take a good hit.
- With no bottle loaded it would seem that the tension is not enough to hold a bottle securely, but oddly enough, I have not had an ejection yet and I have to ride over cobbles in any direction I choose from my ride starting point - both downhill and up.
- They do not require bottle cage bolts that are flush or low profile as the bottle does not abut the bolt area when installed.
- I have only used 500 to 600 ml bottles so far. As there is no top retention lip on these cages, I would hesitate to use a full 750 ml bottle.
- There is certainly more flex in the cages when the bottle is full than an Arundel (zero flex) but there is no visible swaying with the Gwinners.
- For a climbing bike the cages are appropriate. I personally would not use these in a criterium, where smacking a bottle down is a regular occurrence.
I will try to upload a shot of these on the bike eventually.
- Stoli
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- Stolichnaya
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PSM, WE HEAR YOU!!!
Arundel are wonderful, faithful and arguably the best cages on the market. I use them too.
But trying something new is also in order.
These Gwinners are more than 3 times lighter than the Arundels, cost less and seem to work acceptably well.
No worries, I won't leave Arundel behind. I still need big bottles once and a while after all.
Arundel are wonderful, faithful and arguably the best cages on the market. I use them too.
But trying something new is also in order.
These Gwinners are more than 3 times lighter than the Arundels, cost less and seem to work acceptably well.
No worries, I won't leave Arundel behind. I still need big bottles once and a while after all.
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why not opt for tune's cages then? same weight, more or less same price and you can use 750ml bottles...
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Arundel is nice!
But heavy, heavy, heavy by comparison...
I'm using a variation of the open-mold cages, 16g a piece, and they hold bottles (both large and small, anything I've tried works) without being too tight nor losing any bottles regardless if I'm on road or off. And they cost a fraction of what Arundel's asking.
But the ultra-light weight bottle cages, those are worthy of discussion.
Getting cages sub 10g that work well in all circumstances is like chasing down a visible unicorn... it's there, in the distance, and attainable, we just aren't there quite yet.
But heavy, heavy, heavy by comparison...
I'm using a variation of the open-mold cages, 16g a piece, and they hold bottles (both large and small, anything I've tried works) without being too tight nor losing any bottles regardless if I'm on road or off. And they cost a fraction of what Arundel's asking.
But the ultra-light weight bottle cages, those are worthy of discussion.
Getting cages sub 10g that work well in all circumstances is like chasing down a visible unicorn... it's there, in the distance, and attainable, we just aren't there quite yet.
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- Frankie - B
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PSM, please enlighten us on what your comment ads to the discussion, as I fail to see the point.
Please keep in mind that this forum is called W E I G H T W E E N I E S
Please keep in mind that this forum is called W E I G H T W E E N I E S
If you want to see 'meh' content of me and my bike you can follow my life in pictures here!'Tape was made to wrap your GF's gifts, NOT hold a freakin tire on.'
But if this cage actually grab the bottle and there's no rattle, I like it. But I doubt that.
I have used Tune Wassertäger in the past. They were light. But not very steady. It requires quite a lot of force to get out of the bottle also...
My BlackBurn looked nice but there was a lot of rattleing.
Function before weight.
I have used Tune Wassertäger in the past. They were light. But not very steady. It requires quite a lot of force to get out of the bottle also...
My BlackBurn looked nice but there was a lot of rattleing.
Function before weight.
It's been brought up in other topics a few times, but if you truly want lightweight 'cages' (1.5g each) you should be looking at fabric. And yes they work - really well. Both on and off road. Secure fit, no rattle (but you do have to use a proprietary bottle).
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WOW... Fabric.... so simple but so clever...
Anybody uses them???
If they are good, I am in for it...
Weight, looks.... costs....
Please share experiences....
Anybody uses them???
If they are good, I am in for it...
Weight, looks.... costs....
Please share experiences....
Pascal
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too bad that Fabric doesn't offer an insulated version of their bottles
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