Help me - Component Upgrade on 2014 Cervelo R3

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rhyshan
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by rhyshan

Hi, I am planning to upgrade R3 Ultegra(non upgrade, heavy aluminum components) for 2016,

looking forward to your wise advice.

Which option will you choose if you are in my shoes?


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Option 1: fine wheelset with cheap components
Wheel: AX Ultra 24 Tubular
+Cheap components

vs.

Option 2: midgrade wheelset with fine components
Wheel: Bora One Dark Label 35 Tubular
+Carbon components
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+I am thinking my next bike for 2017..
Cervelo R5: 2017 model?
Canyon Ultimate CF SLX: which has aero cockpit, so that have to sell my handlebar


Thanks for advance,

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fa63
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by fa63

I would go for option 2.

stang1
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by stang1

Image

Hows this instead for a change? custom wheel goodness and mid-high tier groupset?

joepac
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by joepac

fa63 wrote:I would go for option 2.


x2. I would go for a slightly deeper wheel. Something in the 40-50mm range. More aero and still light for climbing. Unless you only like climbing. Personally, I like clinchers; tubies don't seem worth the hassle. Everybody I know who has them runs gatorskins because they are too afraid of flatting, totally defeating the purpose of tubies. Yea your wheel is a bit lighter, but you more than make up for it in gained rolling resistance. Or you can run nice tires and be screwed if you flat.

The roval clx 40s, xentis 4.2, and enve 4.5 would be a little more aero/deep. For components, Ultegra is pretty awesome. I would just grab an aero handlebar and you'll be set until you get your new bike.

rhyshan
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by rhyshan

fa63 wrote:I would go for option 2.

Thanks for vote.

rhyshan
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by rhyshan

stang1 wrote:Image

Hows this instead for a change? custom wheel goodness and mid-high tier groupset?


thanks for your pic!
it looks great, but custom is hard challenge for newbie T_T

rhyshan
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by rhyshan

joepac wrote:
fa63 wrote:I would go for option 2.


x2. I would go for a slightly deeper wheel. Something in the 40-50mm range. More aero and still light for climbing. Unless you only like climbing. Personally, I like clinchers; tubies don't seem worth the hassle. Everybody I know who has them runs gatorskins because they are too afraid of flatting, totally defeating the purpose of tubies. Yea your wheel is a bit lighter, but you more than make up for it in gained rolling resistance. Or you can run nice tires and be screwed if you flat.

The roval clx 40s, xentis 4.2, and enve 4.5 would be a little more aero/deep. For components, Ultegra is pretty awesome. I would just grab an aero handlebar and you'll be set until you get your new bike.


Thanks for your kind comment. Thanks for suggest xentis 4.2, it looks great.

rhyshan
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by rhyshan

I expeted more vote on option 1, however the result is not..

how about option 1 with mid-height rim? like Mavic CU or AX 38T?

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mts595
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by mts595

Ax tubs or maybe wait for v2 of the Mavics to come out.

Running full campy and like climbing, dont leave out Campy Hyperons :)

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by dmulligan

What is your goal? Why do you want to upgrade?

You did say that you want to lose weight so I can provide some guidance as I've got the same bike, model and year. The bike is already kind of light to begin with. However the wheels are super heavy! Mine weighed something like 1850g with rim tape! The next part down from there is the saddle which is heavyish. What tyres are on it right now?

Just get the best wheels that you can afford then ride lots.

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rhyshan
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by rhyshan

mts595 wrote:Ax tubs or maybe wait for v2 of the Mavics to come out.

Running full campy and like climbing, dont leave out Campy Hyperons :)


u mean wide rim version of CU?
and thanks for your suggestion, Hyperons!

rhyshan
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by rhyshan

dmulligan wrote:What is your goal? Why do you want to upgrade?

You did say that you want to lose weight so I can provide some guidance as I've got the same bike, model and year. The bike is already kind of light to begin with. However the wheels are super heavy! Mine weighed something like 1850g with rim tape! The next part down from there is the saddle which is heavyish. What tyres are on it right now?

Just get the best wheels that you can afford then ride lots.

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Yes I totally agree with your idea. Fulcrum Racing 5.5 is super heavy!
I used AX P38T this year and came back to FR 5.5, it felt like an anchor.

I am using Vittoria Zaffiro and Diammente on FR 5.5 now.
and thanks for your information: heavy saddle.

here are my bike pic with P38T: http://rhyshan.com/408
and FR 5.5: http://rhyshan.com/412

joepac
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by joepac

rhyshan wrote:I expeted more vote on option 1, however the result is not..

how about option 1 with mid-height rim? like Mavic CU or AX 38T?

Narrow rimmed mavics are old tech, quite a rip off for the price you pay in my mind. Unless you are climbing extremely steep mountains you are going to get more benefit from a deeper rim, more convenience from a clincher, the same performance, and a lot more money in your pocket from buying something else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ovYHQ35-5o

rhyshan
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by rhyshan

joepac wrote:
rhyshan wrote:I expeted more vote on option 1, however the result is not..

how about option 1 with mid-height rim? like Mavic CU or AX 38T?

Narrow rimmed mavics are old tech, quite a rip off for the price you pay in my mind. Unless you are climbing extremely steep mountains you are going to get more benefit from a deeper rim, more convenience from a clincher, the same performance, and a lot more money in your pocket from buying something else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ovYHQ35-5o


Thanks joepark for your kind advice. I think I'd rather save my money for 2017.

I think Fulcrum Racing Zero would be best choice in this situation.

Thanks All!

dmulligan
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by dmulligan

You still haven't answered what your goal is. Why do you want to upgrade, what do you hope to achieve? What do you do with your bike that needs improving?

I don't see a power meter on your bike. If you are looking to improve your performance, a power meter will work better than any weight or aero improvement.

I believe that after a certain point, which your R3 is already light enough for, aero trumps weight in almost all cases. I live in the foothills of the Canadian Rockies and I still believe this. Get a nice pair of affordable deep section section wheels, with good brake tracks, and if you are looking to improve; a power meter. Then grab a good book on training with power or a coach and give'r.

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