Helmets . whats the point. New study
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I don't wear one , never have [ don't want to go bald and lose my huge head of hair ]
Pro riders if they had a choice would certainly not wear them going up climbs etc . They went for years without them.
I don't wear one , never have [ don't want to go bald and lose my huge head of hair ]
Pro riders if they had a choice would certainly not wear them going up climbs etc . They went for years without them.
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Studies are great n' all but I've ruined two helmets in the last year from crashes that would have otherwise left me with some sort of brain trauma. I'll continue wearing a helmet and you're more than welcome to continue to avoid wearing one. Do be polite and keep your head contents out of eye site if you are to strike your head in a wreck as that could cause distress for witnesses. Thanks
This is a study that compares helmet legislation with injury rates which is a very indirect relationship.
I'm more interested in whether a helmet reduces injury when falling from head height to the ground which is what we should be concerned with.
I'm more interested in whether a helmet reduces injury when falling from head height to the ground which is what we should be concerned with.
I've personally cracked two helmets in crashes. Won't ride without one. As to what pro-cyclists used to do, well as a species we learn from history and make advancements that make sense. We used to drive cars without seat belts too but that doesn't make it a good idea.
OP, please make sure you're medical coverage provides for long-term rehabilitative care. That's some really risky dice you're rolling.
As for my hair...that ship sailed many moons ago.
OP, please make sure you're medical coverage provides for long-term rehabilitative care. That's some really risky dice you're rolling.
As for my hair...that ship sailed many moons ago.
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"Pro riders if they had a choice would certainly not wear them going up climbs etc . They went for years without them."
Hard to argue facts like that. Case closed.
Hard to argue facts like that. Case closed.
We are wearing helmets for the low probability that we crash and hit our head. I've probably ridden at easy 50-70K miles in my life and have had one crash wear the helmet was crushed. I've seen a few others of close friends so from my anecdotal experience I know you do hit your head and I know helmets provide protection.
I have a feeling that nobody though is going to convince Xena if he's never wears a helmet.
There are pro-bicycle no helmet activists out there. They don't like helmet laws (not saying they don't like helmets) because they think it will lead to less people cycling. They would rather have more people cycling even if they are less safe.
Just because a study says that helmet laws don't work doesn't mean that helmets don't work. They study could be flawed. People could already be wearing helmets and thus the enacting the law makes no difference at all. Or, the law is not enforced so there was no change in behavior associated with the law.
I have a feeling that nobody though is going to convince Xena if he's never wears a helmet.
There are pro-bicycle no helmet activists out there. They don't like helmet laws (not saying they don't like helmets) because they think it will lead to less people cycling. They would rather have more people cycling even if they are less safe.
Just because a study says that helmet laws don't work doesn't mean that helmets don't work. They study could be flawed. People could already be wearing helmets and thus the enacting the law makes no difference at all. Or, the law is not enforced so there was no change in behavior associated with the law.
Few years ago, a motorbike rider died of head injuries while he was in an anti-helmet legislation demonstration, on his motorbike.
I have also cracked a helmet and would never go without one, not with all those maniacs sharing the road.
Think of your loved ones seeing you as a vegetable when not wearing a helmet.
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I have also cracked a helmet and would never go without one, not with all those maniacs sharing the road.
Think of your loved ones seeing you as a vegetable when not wearing a helmet.
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Based on the study cited, perhaps the topic should be: helmet laws: what's the point?
Personally, I wear one, but I don't think there should be legislation for every little thing. That way madness lies.
When I broke my hand a couple years ago, the first thing I was asked in A&E after I mentioned bicycle was: were you wearing a helmet, and did you hit your head? And then they asked it again a few times just for good measure. Head injuries are bad and healthcare professionals are, rightly, concerned because head trauma is one of the quickest ways to change your life
Legislation, on the other hand, is debatable, which is why politics is mostly an overblown debating society
Personally, I wear one, but I don't think there should be legislation for every little thing. That way madness lies.
When I broke my hand a couple years ago, the first thing I was asked in A&E after I mentioned bicycle was: were you wearing a helmet, and did you hit your head? And then they asked it again a few times just for good measure. Head injuries are bad and healthcare professionals are, rightly, concerned because head trauma is one of the quickest ways to change your life
Legislation, on the other hand, is debatable, which is why politics is mostly an overblown debating society
I wonder if anyone's done a wind tunnel diff on what you save wearing an aero helmet vs letting those glorious locks fly! Maybe that would be what pros would choose, after all you have to get to the hill and get down it.
Squint wrote:This is a study that compares helmet legislation with injury rates which is a very indirect relationship.
I'm more interested in whether a helmet reduces injury when falling from head height to the ground which is what we should be concerned with.
HELMET **LEGISLATION!!!** AND INJURY RATES.... Not the act of wearing a helmet. Helmets do make injuries not as bad.
Reading is hard, apparently. I mean really the only way you can slightly redeem yourself is to play it off like you were just trying to troll the board...
did a long ride once w/o my helmet as I'd forgotten it, and I hated it. left extra room in the pace line just in case.
Regarding legislation, as long as the public is on the hook when someone dashes their brains out, then legislation makes sense. Long term care is expensive.
Regarding legislation, as long as the public is on the hook when someone dashes their brains out, then legislation makes sense. Long term care is expensive.
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So, how do you prove such an assumption (that infrastructure decreases injury rate) ?
Spend a few billion on bike infrastructure "protection" , then compare stats ?
then
If more injuries, then write an article that assumes : wrong infrastructure (blame previous goverment décisions)
Blah,blah,,,,, etc....
Leave helmets alone
Louis
Spend a few billion on bike infrastructure "protection" , then compare stats ?
then
If more injuries, then write an article that assumes : wrong infrastructure (blame previous goverment décisions)
Blah,blah,,,,, etc....
Leave helmets alone
Louis