ergott wrote:spookyload wrote:Have you ridden hydraulic disc brakes? They have very little force feedback if you are riding a high quality system.
In fact I just got off my bike with Shimano R785 Di2 and Ice Tech 160mm front/140mm rear. What makes it so good is the fact that I really do feel the grip level in the tires. Nothing to do with force feedback at all. I can modulate my rear brake just up to lockup much easier than any road caliper I've ever used including Dura Ace, Super Record, and Force 22.
If you have hydro or access to it, try that simple test. Brake with just the rear wheel and see how much better that system is. Now think of all the added noise of a remote system that would get in the way of that. And for what?
When I mention redundancy it's not just the batteries. You need redundancy in the sensors all around so there are no lost packets. Seriously, read my other post.
So we are past the constant battery drain now? Road feel is what you say can't happen now. Got it. Just to clarify, that is the argument people in the 80's said would miss from index shifting compared to friction shifting. That seems to have worked itself OK.
Trying to guess what technology will exist in a decade is fruitless. The cheapest iPhone 6 has more storage and computing power than a home computer had ten years ago. Technology is exponential. Di2 was first used in the Tour in 2009 by a few teams. Now most riders use it. That is only six years of growth. Where will electronic shifting be in four more years?
The industry makes changes to keep itself developing. More gears, improved aero, more carbon....I asked it before...why wouldn't wireless brakes be on the horizon?
Here is a link from WW in 2005. Lots of common themes we are discussing now. They seemed to have figured the kinks out though.
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