chinese carbon handlebars: YES/NO ?
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I used to run Chinese carbon bars and I had no issues with them but I also had no confidence in them, I couldn't bring myself to sprint properly or descend fast with them so in the end I binned them and went back to alloy.
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tarmackev wrote:I used to run Chinese carbon bars and I had no issues with them but I also had no confidence in them, I couldn't bring myself to sprint properly or descend fast with them so in the end I binned them and went back to alloy.
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I picked up a set of china carbon compact drops off ebay, but the clamping area was too small for any hoods. Just a warning.
I've been using them as bars for my track bike without issues.
I've been using them as bars for my track bike without issues.
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What is the obsession with cheap product, slapped together with no quality control, purchased from random eBay user in China?!
Stop buying trash products, you are a weightweenie after all. Do your research, purchase quality product, don't be cheap and treat your bike well!
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http://blog.fairwheelbikes.com/reviews- ... ar-review/
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mpulsiv wrote:What is the obsession with cheap product, slapped together with no quality control, purchased from random eBay user in China?!
Stop buying trash products, you are a weightweenie after all. Do your research, purchase quality product, don't be cheap and treat your bike well!
That. Buying this junk is shortsighted if not unethical.
Video when a sales man breaks a fake Zipp handle bar:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BA1q67XoSz6/
https://www.instagram.com/p/BA1q67XoSz6/
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To play devil's advocate:
-So, basically how most bars break in a crash/fall? Choosing the direction at which the bar is weakest and not a force under normal riding? Huh. Yeah, sounds legit.
-Video of "real" SL70s with the same direction of force for comparison, please. I read the comments on that post, but no video to support the comment that the 'authentic' bars had no effect under the same pressure? Odd.
I have yet to own 'fake' bars, but I've had a number of 'authentic' bars break. Two from crashes in the expected fashion of failure (one Specialized, one ZIPP) and one non-crash, just a break on the right-side top, when I hit a very steep speed-bump in a parking lot a little too fast (from Williams Cycling). The latter was a total break but I managed to ride back home because the handlebar tape held it relatively in place for the 23 mile return home.
Legitimate bars break too, sadly. Everything is prone to failure.
-So, basically how most bars break in a crash/fall? Choosing the direction at which the bar is weakest and not a force under normal riding? Huh. Yeah, sounds legit.
-Video of "real" SL70s with the same direction of force for comparison, please. I read the comments on that post, but no video to support the comment that the 'authentic' bars had no effect under the same pressure? Odd.
I have yet to own 'fake' bars, but I've had a number of 'authentic' bars break. Two from crashes in the expected fashion of failure (one Specialized, one ZIPP) and one non-crash, just a break on the right-side top, when I hit a very steep speed-bump in a parking lot a little too fast (from Williams Cycling). The latter was a total break but I managed to ride back home because the handlebar tape held it relatively in place for the 23 mile return home.
Legitimate bars break too, sadly. Everything is prone to failure.
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prendrefeu wrote:-Video of "real" SL70s with the same direction of force for comparison, please. I read the comments on that post, but no video to support the comment that the 'authentic' bars had no effect under the same pressure? Odd.
I agree, he should have a uploaded video when he does the same thing an authentic bar. Maybe he's paid by Zipp, who knows...
Here's the comment @prendrefeu is talking about "The real Zipp bars just flexed a bit with the same method and twice as much power. Not even a crack sound from the clearcoat. The fake bars really did break instantly."
There are qualitative differences no doubt. I've seen plenty over the years.
But as for the 'easier breaking' part, its still up there with the urban myths and legends of the Bigfoot.
I've seen as many carbon bars break, both branded as well as no-name ones. The end results all look too similar to tell which ones broke more easily though.
If the video really wants to prove a point, hang weights onto both no-name as well as branded bars using 5kg increments until complete failure. Measuring the deflection with the incremental weight additions along the way.
But as for the 'easier breaking' part, its still up there with the urban myths and legends of the Bigfoot.
I've seen as many carbon bars break, both branded as well as no-name ones. The end results all look too similar to tell which ones broke more easily though.
If the video really wants to prove a point, hang weights onto both no-name as well as branded bars using 5kg increments until complete failure. Measuring the deflection with the incremental weight additions along the way.
maxxevv wrote:... If the video really wants to prove a point, hang weights onto both no-name as well as branded bars using 5kg increments until complete failure. Measuring the deflection with the incremental weight additions along the way.
Yes, and to take sample variation out of the discussion: from each 5 pieces!
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Everything must be fake then.
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