chinese carbon handlebars: YES/NO ?

[alanmclean]

Apologies, I am going to thrash this one to death.

In reply to OP I would never trust any supplier who used "Zipp/insert brand here replica" etc in their name because they are using reputable names to sell rubbish. Can someone please ban the use of "copy" and replica". They are not "copies" or "replicas", they are forgeries, could be made of cheese, and potentially dangerous to the user and other riders. Anyone using a reputable brand name for their own cheap ware is dishonest and cannot be trusted, all they want to do is sell a poor product with a sticker on it.

There are lots of very good own brand products out there with importers and retailers to back them up but if they put a Zipp or Pinarello transfer on the kit then they reveal their complete dishonesty. Fine for a t-shirt but not for a bike.

I can't think of anything on a bike, even a bottle cage, that I would be happy to see fail at 60kph and anyone looking at forged wheels, bars, frames must be crazy to risk it for a logo to show their friends. As for people who believe they are sticking it to the man by buying forgeries " cos real Zipps are a rip off at £1500 and I got these for £500" I am baffled and try not to follow their wheel.

[ifrit]

I've seen a friend's Chinese handbar breaking into two pieces which was bought from Aliexpress..
I try to avoid any parts that didn't go through quality controls from trustworthy makers.

[pdlpsher1]

I have not bought any Chinese no-brand products on FleaBay. It's tempting. I almost bought a carbon saddle but after seeing pics of broken saddle I had figured it's not worth the risk.


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[liam7020]

Wondered was Wiggins using a Chinese handlebar in the Tour of California TT last week....?

[nathanong87]

Wondered was Wiggins using a Chinese handlebar in the Tour of California TT last week....?

lol

[superdx]

Having done some sourcing for electronic and textile factories in China, I can tell you that even the ones with Western (German, French, US, HK) management have issues with QA, not to mention the attrition of the factory workers that are there. Especially after major holidays like Golden Week or National Day. On a bad week sometimes up to 30% of the "finished" product needs to be discarded because it simply isn't good enough. A good week is about 10% discard, but that's with heavy investment in QA personnel.

Buying replica, copies, fakes from eBay from factories that are knowingly producing fake stuff should give you an idea of what you're getting. Just because they have the same moulds and same machines doesn't mean a damn thing.

People who report no issues with fakes are simply just lucky. I'd use that luck in in buying the lottery instead instead of saving $100-200 on a carbon bike component that will land you in the hospital.

[Marin]

even the ones with Western (German, French, US, HK) management have issues with QA

So what lottery ticket would you buy instead of a carbon part from a German, French, US brand then?

[pdlpsher1]

Wondered was Wiggins using a Chinese handlebar in the Tour of California TT last week....?

lol

I had heard he's filing a dispute with PayPal to get his money back


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[nathanong87]

Wondered was Wiggins using a Chinese handlebar in the Tour of California TT last week....?

lol

I had heard he's filing a dispute with PayPal to get his money back
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[superdx]

even the ones with Western (German, French, US, HK) management have issues with QA

So what lottery ticket would you buy instead of a carbon part from a German, French, US brand then?

Never had to make that choice. I don't buy fakes.

[Marin]

Do you understand what you wrote?

[superdx]

If you want to buy fakes instead of just attacking other people, do so, no one is stopping you, and no one is stopping the fake factories. All I did was state the obvious about Chinese factories, they are not dependable. Why do you think Chinese hordes buy baby formula from other countries in bulk? Or that no one trusts the pharmaceuticals that come out of China?

If you want to defend this option to buy counterfeit stuff go ahead, I'm of the opinion that you are increasing risk of injury on other riders. Having been seriously injured myself in the past, it's not something I wish on anyone. Good luck.

[hyunsoo]

I have used Chinese carbon bars during 1year, no problems.
I bought at aliexpress

[Frankie - B]

@SuperDX, I think the poster was asking your opinion about CF products from the likes of tune, AX lightness, schmolke, Time, etc.

[Marin]

- He said that even factories under western management have massive QC issues.

- I asked if he buy parts from these factories - which probably make 99% of the bicycle parts from the biggest brands.