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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Allez Sprint
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:33 pm 
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Geo tables?

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Allez Sprint
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 5:40 pm 
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KWalker wrote:
Geo tables?



Internet + Specialized.com.

http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bikes/ ... t#geometry

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Calnago wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if frame designers even consider the whole package and the consequences of their design when everything is built up and has to be ridden. Not sure how they're going to avoid some really nasty cable bends going into that rear brake. Result: Nasty braking.



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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Allez Sprint
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:19 pm 
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Is any of this really a step forward on the original E5 Aerotec frameset?

Which was <1200g and stiff as a dog's kn0b

The ride quality is most likely a step backwards with that post vs a 27.2mm effort ...

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Allez Sprint
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:38 pm 
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comfort? this bike only has to last for a 1 hour crit, and i can hit the ice bath.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Allez Sprint
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 7:42 pm 
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how to sell aluminium at indecent prices ...


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Allez Sprint
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 9:08 pm 
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^ Have to pay for your fancy wind tunnel and stay a $500 million company somehow. Plus rent ain't cheap in Morgan Hill.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Allez Sprint
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:25 pm 
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53x12 wrote:
Calnago wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if frame designers even consider the whole package and the consequences of their design when everything is built up and has to be ridden. Not sure how they're going to avoid some really nasty cable bends going into that rear brake. Result: Nasty braking.



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Ok, I guess that works, as long as the cable doesn't rub the thigh. Bends are not extreme, so all good.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Allez Sprint
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:35 pm 
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Whoever built that up made the housing too long though. It could be cleaner... and lighter.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Allez Sprint
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 10:52 pm 
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The E5 frames were awful. Not all that stiff and rode as if they were.

This has pretty thin seatstays and a ton of carbon in the post. It won't be a dream, but I doubt its god awful.

WW=Shit on Specialized for no good reason. Yet we praise the CAAD and every other AL bike. This bike actually does something interesting with AL for a cohort that can benefit from it. These will sell like hot cakes because Speci seems somewhat in tune with what their constituents want. There are dozens of Venges in every field in every race I did this year and people will have no issue buying these up instead since they will be cheaper especially at the bro discount that almost everyone seems to get. If you price it at 30% off or 25% its a damn good deal for a dedicated race bike.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Allez Sprint
PostPosted: Thu Aug 20, 2015 11:33 pm 
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WW's aren't the only ones that shit on Specialized in the cycling community. Plus Specialized over active law department doesn't help their cause out. Especially when threatening to sue a bike shop in Canada because they used the term 'Roubaix' for their shop name while Specialized doesn't even own the trademark to the term 'Roubaix' since it is Fuji! Lol. Not to mention the way Specialized treats small bike shops. Fcuk Specialized.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Allez Sprint
PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 12:15 am 
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wpccrunner wrote:
Can't say much for the aesthetics of that frame. IMO the new Giant Propel ALR looks much better

http://www.bikerumor.com/2015/05/07/201 ... o-reality/

I really wish this frame was available in the US.


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Allez Sprint
PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:22 am 
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I really wish this frame was available in the US.


+1. :beerchug: Can't really add anything to that. Was super excited when I saw and read about the Propel ALR. Was super sad when I learned that Giant wouldn't bring it to the USA.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Allez Sprint
PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 3:55 am 
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Does anyone else find it strange that the best aluminum frames never make it to the US? The only high end option we seem to get is the CAAD (12 looks awesome). Giant doesn't bring the OD2 and internal cable routing version of the TCR SLR, the Propel ALR will not be here, Specialized will not bring the Allez Sprint... and then there's Canyon. Is the US consumer market too obsessed with carbon bikes, or do companies simply have a better market for more expensive bikes in the states? Genuinely curious...


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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Allez Sprint
PostPosted: Fri Aug 21, 2015 4:02 am 
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^ The Specialized Allez Sprint is being sold in the USA market. It is on their website.

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 Post subject: Re: 2016 Allez Sprint
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^^Good to hear. i stand corrected.


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