New bike help - Cipollini RB800 or De Rosa Superking 888

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by tommasini

Tommasini VLC3 is also still Italian made carbon tubing that is hand assembled (VLC3 is tube to tube) in Italy.

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by Harmitc

audiojan wrote:Maybe more expensive, but what about Pinarello Dogma F8? Made in Italy…. so is the Colnago C60 (which is a very, very nice bike).


The F8 is made in the Far East. C60 is Italian made.

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by stormur

Are you absolutely and without any doubts sure, that all C60 tubes and lugs are not made in Far East and then "made" ( cut, bonded, polished, painted ) in Italy ?

Do you know Italian law requirements for label "made in Italy" ? ;)
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by Johnnysmooth

audiojan wrote:Maybe more expensive, but what about Pinarello Dogma F8? Made in Italy…. so is the Colnago C60 (which is a very, very nice bike).


I just got my C60 a little over a week ago. Several rides later, simply an amazing ride.
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by BlackMadone

stormur wrote:Are you absolutely and without any doubts sure, that all C60 tubes and lugs are not made in Far East and then "made" ( cut, bonded, polished, painted ) in Italy ?

Do you know Italian law requirements for label "made in Italy" ? ;)

The tubes and lugs are made in Asian and then shipped to Italy for final assembly.

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by MiddMan

I'm not sure about the F8. While I'm sure the carbon is sourced from Asia, I did see a frame at my local bike shop with a 'made in Italy' sticker on the downtube. That said, it was a sticker (ie not decal) which appeared like it would come off rather easily. Contra other manufacturers (Copnago C60, Sarto, Cipollini, etc) who definitely paint the 'fatto a mano in italia' as a matter of pride.

Nothing wrong with Asian made frames in fact (the legit ones), but I can totally understand the desire to have Italian-made. But most all are going to get their carbon from Asia... Giant and TIME are the only two I know that make their own. Colnago is the only company to have exclusive rights to ALL its bikes to use the high-quality Japanese Toray carbon.

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by lisu

Had the same dillema, finaly decided for Cippo RB800.

arthurf wrote:Bond is also more practical with a standard adjustable seatpost rather than the mast

you can use bond's seat tube clip if you want, like I do. You also need a Bond's post ofcourse.

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by jonnyf

So I have now been advised that the De Rosa King XS is made in Italy. This looks like a serious piece of equipment so it's between this and a Sarto Dinamica. argh!

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