2016 Giant TCR?
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Giant have really cheapened the look of their bikes with that new logo and paint schemes.
To me, this doesn't look like a higher end bike.
To me, this doesn't look like a higher end bike.
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giant need to stop doing ISP and BMX bike sloping TTs. ugh.
Giants always look better in the flesh but I agree they can do much better than that. The logo is not great either.
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So they changed geo but didn't fix the odd size progression (big reach jump from M to ML - right in the zone that most riders need)
With their size it's a shame they don't adopt an approach like Trek H1/2/3
wonder if the geo of a new propel will change.
i suspect the geo change on the TCR is *perhaps* a consequence of their frame redesign,
complete speculation of course - but it is a little surprising that 'loyal' TCR user might/would have to rethink "new model upgrade"
i suspect the geo change on the TCR is *perhaps* a consequence of their frame redesign,
complete speculation of course - but it is a little surprising that 'loyal' TCR user might/would have to rethink "new model upgrade"
cyclenutnz wrote:So they changed geo but didn't fix the odd size progression (big reach jump from M to ML - right in the zone that most riders need)
That's bizarre. I wonder if it's even a typo - 39.8 instead of say 39.3 or something like that...
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@wingguy - probably not a typo, Giant are good at a lot of things but sizing has never been one of them
@caferacer - are you in between sizes for reach or stack? The new ML could be good for you if the old one was too tall - new ML with a 120mm stem could be a goer. What is the setup (stem/spacers) on your current bike?
@caferacer - are you in between sizes for reach or stack? The new ML could be good for you if the old one was too tall - new ML with a 120mm stem could be a goer. What is the setup (stem/spacers) on your current bike?
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I think I should probably be between a M and an ML too, officially. Unofficially I ride the ML (a 2011) with a short (80mm) stem and it works for me. Giant always seem to fit bars for gorillas too - I think the ones that come on the M/L are 42 or 44 cm with a two-storey drop - first thing to go...
cyclenutnz wrote:@wingguy - probably not a typo, Giant are good at a lot of things but sizing has never been one of them
@caferacer - are you in between sizes for reach or stack? The new ML could be good for you if the old one was too tall - new ML with a 120mm stem could be a goer. What is the setup (stem/spacers) on your current bike?
Hi mate, I am on a M/L Propel right now with a 120mm stem that is slammed and still is a bit high. So it's mainly a stack issue, although I do prefer the handling of bikes with a 130/140 stem as opposed to the current 120 (although I have got used to this over time).
A 56 tarmac SL4 fits me like a glove as does a 56 cannondale evo.
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CAFERACER wrote:Hi mate, I am on a M/L Propel right now with a 120mm stem that is slammed and still is a bit high. So it's mainly a stack issue, although I do prefer the handling of bikes with a 130/140 stem as opposed to the current 120 (although I have got used to this over time).
A 56 tarmac SL4 fits me like a glove as does a 56 cannondale evo.
Those options would require finding a -6 angled 1.25 stem, though that is getting easier now. (assuming you are using the stock -8 stem)
The new TCR ML is within a couple of mm of being exactly the same Frame XY as Supersix Evo and Tarmac SL4. So for you the changes are good.
@patchsurfer - how many spacers under the stem and what bars are you using?