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 Post subject: Litespeed Ultimate
PostPosted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 7:34 pm 
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I need some suggestion.
I'm going to upgrade my bike (very day training) from Calfee Tetra Pro to Litespeed Ultimate. (Only frame and fork).
http://www.litespeed.com/bikes/ultimate.aspx

I have another bike (Scott CR1 5,65 Kg for competition only)
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum ... .php?t=747

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 Post subject: Re: Litespeed Ultimate
PostPosted: Wed Feb 18, 2004 7:09 am 
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Delpi wrote:
I need some suggestion.
I'm going to upgrade my bike (very day training) from Calfee Tetra Pro to Litespeed Ultimate. (Only frame and fork).
http://www.litespeed.com/bikes/ultimate.aspx

I have another bike (Scott CR1 5,65 Kg for competition only)
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum ... .php?t=747

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Santa Madonna! Ma quant'e' bella la tua Scott!!!! Adesso capisco perche' l'invidia e' un peccato! :)
Why did you pick Ultimate instead of Vortex?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 7:10 pm 
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Ciao Cadence90

Ti rispondo in italiano così mi spiego meglio.

Ho deciso di prentere il telaio Ultimate perchè voglio assemblare una bicicletta che vada forte in pianura.
Mi piace la forma aereodinamica del telaio.
Utilizzerò questi componenti:
Gruppo: Campagnolo Record
Piega integrata Deda Synapsi
http://www.dedaelementi.com/it/cat_racing.asp
Ruote in carbonio Corima Aero
http://www.corima.com/corima/fr/produit ... /aero.html
Guarnitura FSA Superlight in carbonio
Freni Aken
http://www.advancedeurope.com/Advanced/ ... d_aken.htm

Dovrei ottenere una bicicletta da 7,5 / 7,6 Kg. Non leggerissima ma dato che la mia Scott pesa 5,7 Kg va benissimo.

Su questo link ci sono delle foto dettagliate del telaio Ultimate. Dovrebbe arrivarmi tra 5 settimane... non vedo l'ora :lol:
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CC ... UCT.ID=157

NBHo letto che stai cercando una guarnitura Compact la Extralite ne fà una nuova modello E-Bones R Compact
Pesa 357gr reali nella misura da 172,5mm!!! (senza corone)
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/listi ... =crankarms

Qui trovi la foto del modello da MTB ti assicuro che è identica a quella da corsa
http://www.shockbike.com/scheda.asp?IdArt=1924

Saluti da Andrea

dimenticavo ... Gimondi è un grande!! Quanto mi mancano i campioni di una volta...

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:10 pm 
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Why don't you take the FRM brakes: 245g


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:25 pm 
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FRM Brakes are only single pivot.

... I have used them but they haven't a great power.

I have baught the Aken brakes because they are a good compromise between WEIGHT / PRICE AND PERFORMANCE. (THE REAL WEIGHT IS 285gr)

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 8:36 pm 
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Thank you for the suggestion :)

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:39 pm 
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@delpi + cadence90:
please respect that the common board language is English.
Non-italian speaking users would also like to understand what you write. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Litespeed Ultimate
PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 11:05 pm 
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Delpi wrote:
I have another bike (Scott CR1 5,65 Kg for competition only)
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/forum ... .php?t=747

Ciao


Nice bike, very beautiful.
No problems with the weight in competitions? Probably nobody is controlling that.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 1:18 am 
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Test ride a Litespeed Ultimate if you can (maybe you've already done this
and love it). I switched from a Tetra Pro to a Litespeed Liege (oversized
tubes similar to Ultimate) 5 years ago and found it to be a much stiffer ride
and less comfortable than the Tetra. Lots of big guys (> 80 kg) around
here have raced on the Ultimate; maybe it's more forgiving for them. The
carbon seat stays on the Ultimate may improve the ride, but best to check
this on a test ride first.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 3:56 am 
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Florian wrote:
@delpi + cadence90:
please respect that the common board language is English.
Non-italian speaking users would also like to understand what you write. :wink:

You are right, Florian, our apologies I'm sure.
I have translated Delpi's kind response for the benefit of all: :)

"Hello cadence90,
I will respond in Italian because it is easier for me.

I have decided to buy the Ultimate frame because I want to assemble a bicycle which is fast on the flats.
I like the areodynamic form of the frame.
I will use these components:
Group: Campagnolo Record
Integrated bar/stem: Deda Synapsi
http://www.dedaelementi.com/it/cat_racing.asp
Carbon wheelset: Corima Aero
http://www.corima.com/corima/fr/produits/roues/aero.html
Carbon crankset: FSA Superlight
Brakeset: Aken
http://www.advancedeurope.com/Advanced/accessori_advanced_aken/accessori_advanced_aken.html

I should obtain a bicycle in the 7.5/7.6 kg range. Not superlight, but since my Scott weighs 5.7kg this will be fine.

Here is a link with detailed photos of the Ultimate frame. It should arrive within 5 weeks....I can't wait!
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/za/CCY?PAGE=PRODUCT&PRODUCT.ID=157

PS: I read that you are looking for a compact crankset. Extralite makes one: the new model E-Bones R Compact.
Real weight: 357gr in 172.5mm!!! (without chainrings).
http://weightweenies.starbike.com/listings/components.php?type=crankarms

Here is a photo of the MTB model which I assure you is identical to the road version.
http://www.shockbike.com/scheda.asp?IdArt=1924

Best regards,

I forgot....Gimondi is great!! How I miss the champions of the past..."

@Delpi, ti ringrazio, thank you!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 4:01 am 
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Delpi, are the Aken brakes readily available?
I like them because they are the lightest dual pivot brakes, the price/performance ratio seems very good...and they look good.
http://www.shockbike.com/images/Aken/freni2.jpg

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 8:50 am 
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Yes the Aken brakes are available!! :)
I have bought them 2 month ago (www.shockbike.com)

Cadence 90, I Thank you for the translation

... When you will come here in Italy... I will offer you a beer!!! :lol:

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This summer I will try to climb this mountain. Monte Zoncolan

http://www.salite.ch/zoncolan1.htm

... I think that I will use 36 (34) - 29!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 10:02 am 
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Test ride a Litespeed Ultimate if you can (maybe you've already done this
and love it). I switched from a Tetra Pro to a Litespeed Liege (oversized
tubes similar to Ultimate) 5 years ago and found it to be a much stiffer ride
and less comfortable than the Tetra. Lots of big guys (> 80 kg) around
here have raced on the Ultimate; maybe it's more forgiving for them. The
carbon seat stays on the Ultimate may improve the ride, but best to check
this on a test ride first.


Perfect!!!! :D
I have ordered the Ultimate because it is the most stiff frame produced by Litespeed.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 12:07 pm 
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Frame: Litespeed Ultimate 1506gr
Fork: Litespeed Lite Tec Carbon 430gr
Headset: Cane Creek 80gr
Expander: Extralite Ultrastar 15gr
Integrated Handelbar: Deda Synapsi 490gr
Spacer: Carbon 15gr
Bar Tape: Cinelli Lux Ribbon 60gr
Cable: Metawire Brake/Shifter 150gr
Derrailleur Rear: Campa Record 10v 03 191gr
Derrailleur Front: Campa Record 10v 03 88gr
Chain: Campa Record 2003 275gr
Cogs: Campa 12-25 10v 210gr
Cogs lock ring: Tune 6gr
Cranks: Fsa Superlight 53-39 515gr
BB Bolts: Extralite Ergal 15gr
Botton Bracket: Roi ike Isis 108 (by AC?) 150gr
Brakes: Aken Corsa Dual Pivot 285gr
Seatpost: Easton EC90 250 31,6 180gr (?)
Saddle: Speedneedle 99gr
Wheels: Corima Aero Carbon Tubolar 1500gr
(18 Spokes Front - 24 spokes rear)
Skewers: FRM 2 65gr
Tires: Tufo Lite < 215 700x21 Black 430gr
Pedals: Keywin Titanium 195gr
Bottle Cage: Elite Patao Carbon (02) 66gr
Heart Rate Monitor: Polar S710 52gr
Bike Mount: Polar 22gr
Speed Sensor: Polar 23gr
Cadence Sensor: Polar Radio 23gr
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Totale Weight 7502 gr

Upgrade Light version: :lol:
Zipp 303 (AC hubs) 1140gr
Tufo Elite 700x20 370gr
Tiso 12-25 Cogs 125gr
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Total Weight Light Version 6922gr

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2004 4:11 pm 
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This is more like a second race bike than a training bike!

Nice specs. I'm doing almost the same thing with my second bike, it's getting Record brakes (tuned), heavier post and saddle, slightly heavier fork, heavier wheels (but they can be changed!). The brakes will stop on a dime in traffic, heavier wheels are a better idea for training on and the other parts I already had - I'm applying the trickle down theory, what previously was lightest now gets onto my second lightest bike, and the new lighter stuff goes on my lightest bike.

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