Ax lightness Vial Evo Ultra - 589g!
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The news everyone who's just bought a standard Vial has been waiting for - a new, even lighter model!
https://www.facebook.com/axlightness
It's incredible that this thing is 300g lighter than my Z-Zero frame. Wow.
https://www.facebook.com/axlightness
It's incredible that this thing is 300g lighter than my Z-Zero frame. Wow.
2014 Parlee Z-Zero DADi2 & ENVE (6.2kg)
2015 Colnago C60 RSWH Campag Chorus & Mavic SLR (c.7kg)
2015 Colnago C60 RSWH Campag Chorus & Mavic SLR (c.7kg)
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A frame that light terrifies me
Wow -- that would save 270 grams off my present frame, plus probably 90 grams more for the fork. If I value that at $5/gram, that's worth $1800.
We're really hitting diminishing returns on frames.
We're really hitting diminishing returns on frames.
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I wonder if weight increments is same as for Vial EVO, 20g + for each size up!?
Question is how that frame will handle and on what weight limit of rider will end up.
Guerciotti has a lower weight limit for the 769 frame than Vial EVO has.
I wonder if it is really sane dropping too much weight on a frame, i mean, at some point durability is clearly something you need to overlook.
But if you want to be the lightest, perhaps it's worth it!?
Question is how that frame will handle and on what weight limit of rider will end up.
Guerciotti has a lower weight limit for the 769 frame than Vial EVO has.
I wonder if it is really sane dropping too much weight on a frame, i mean, at some point durability is clearly something you need to overlook.
But if you want to be the lightest, perhaps it's worth it!?
Bikes:
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
Ax Lightness Vial EVO Race (2019.01.03)
Open *UP* (2016.04.14)
Paduano Racing Fidia (kind of shelved)
Ex bike; Vial EVO D, Vial EVO Ultra, Scott Foil, Paduano ti bike.
Don Becker's Ruegamer Uberlight was 610 grams in 2009. AFAIK he's still riding it in the Berkeley Hills. I think the limiting factor on pushing frame weights has been cost, not the ability to push them. Some really sick-light prototypes have been announced by Cervelo and others but were declared too expensive for mass production.
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How light can these guys get?
Amazing stuff...
Amazing stuff...
canyon-engineer (if i remember right, his name is "kaiser") said in an interview, its not so difficult to build a very light and at the same time stiff frame-the problem rather is, to avoid walls becoming to "crisp" (means walls breaking by the slightest impact).
such a "crisp" frame would offer a stable ride feel, and although could carry heavier riders, but would not be practicable.
ax-lightness have so much experience with processing carbon, they probably can handle such problems. somehow impressive.
nevertheless under no circumstances i would buy one of those frames.
such a "crisp" frame would offer a stable ride feel, and although could carry heavier riders, but would not be practicable.
ax-lightness have so much experience with processing carbon, they probably can handle such problems. somehow impressive.
nevertheless under no circumstances i would buy one of those frames.
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Krull wrote:nevertheless under no circumstances i would buy one of those frames.
If money was no object I'd be on that like an addict on a freshly chopped line of charlie