need advice about old steel frames and old campy group
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hello
this is not exactly a weight weenies topic but there are people here who knows a lot I need some clarification and advice
i found in a auction site this frame and fell in love with it
is nothing special is columbus steel and have some nice lugs and frame details.
now mi doubt is what do with that?
first i whant do a really nice cool paint job (where i dont have problems, "paint is my thing"), but then do what?
fixie?
truth faithful restoration? (budget issues)
assemble in the cheapest way so that i can ride it?
other question i found that groupset what could you tel me about it, i think is a valentino
this is not exactly a weight weenies topic but there are people here who knows a lot I need some clarification and advice
i found in a auction site this frame and fell in love with it
is nothing special is columbus steel and have some nice lugs and frame details.
now mi doubt is what do with that?
first i whant do a really nice cool paint job (where i dont have problems, "paint is my thing"), but then do what?
fixie?
truth faithful restoration? (budget issues)
assemble in the cheapest way so that i can ride it?
other question i found that groupset what could you tel me about it, i think is a valentino
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I am sure that.
i have now finished my new venge and and blow the budjet, but i am a projects guy and i need to find my new money pit, but this is my first old bike,
my favorite groupset is shimano arabesque, i just love it and there are a few on ebay, what do you think about arabesque, and about that campy in the photo
i have now finished my new venge and and blow the budjet, but i am a projects guy and i need to find my new money pit, but this is my first old bike,
my favorite groupset is shimano arabesque, i just love it and there are a few on ebay, what do you think about arabesque, and about that campy in the photo
- bikerjulio
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I don't think there's any match between the frame which looks to be '90's and the antique Campy bits (50's ?).
Other than that, I'm no help.
Other than that, I'm no help.
There's sometimes a buggy.
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One.
So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.
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How many drivers does a buggy have?
One.
So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.
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- bikerjulio
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I have not found a catalog pre-1953. The Gran Sport RD came out in 1950 and had limit screws at the side. I cannot identify that RD from the "50's catalogs I looked at although it certainly looks to be of that vintage. Perhaps a lower level?
There's sometimes a buggy.
How many drivers does a buggy have?
One.
So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekiIMh4ZkM
How many drivers does a buggy have?
One.
So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekiIMh4ZkM
- bikerjulio
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OP you are right about it looking like a Valantino set. Which would make it from the '60's. The catalogs from that era are not easy to find. It appears in a slightly different form in the '67 catalog.
There's sometimes a buggy.
How many drivers does a buggy have?
One.
So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekiIMh4ZkM
How many drivers does a buggy have?
One.
So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekiIMh4ZkM
Yup, the Valentino group was my first exposure to Campagnolo. Was fascinated by how it looked compared to the plastic Simplex derailleur that I thought was the best thing ever at the time. Seems every bike I had back then was inevitably stolen. Not the best childhood neighborhood. Sorry can't tell you much more about it. But seeing it brings back memories for sure.
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- bikerjulio
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My experience with buying and selling Campy parts does not go back this far, but in general well worn parts from a lower group are worth diddly squat.
They look like more of a conversation piece than anything you'd actually want to use on a bike.
If you are really interested in value you could try the "completed sales" search on eBay, but sadly they don't keep results for too long.
They look like more of a conversation piece than anything you'd actually want to use on a bike.
If you are really interested in value you could try the "completed sales" search on eBay, but sadly they don't keep results for too long.
There's sometimes a buggy.
How many drivers does a buggy have?
One.
So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekiIMh4ZkM
How many drivers does a buggy have?
One.
So let's just say I'm drivin' this buggy...
and if you fix your attitude you can ride along with me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GekiIMh4ZkM
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That old campagnolo kit is a bit dated for the frame. Will the rear mech even fit as you probably have a proper hanger to bolt a mech onto.
8 speed veloce or a then a is not too expensive to buy neither is 9 speed and they work well. You could try shimano 6401/2 as that simply works very well all day long. Arabesque while pretty is early 80's and looks to early for the frame beside the single pivot brakes are a bit lacking which is fine for a play bike but for something to ride regularly then a dual pivot brake like the 6402 is far better.
So you can see which groupset I like practical ones. Your frame looks practical that why.
8 speed veloce or a then a is not too expensive to buy neither is 9 speed and they work well. You could try shimano 6401/2 as that simply works very well all day long. Arabesque while pretty is early 80's and looks to early for the frame beside the single pivot brakes are a bit lacking which is fine for a play bike but for something to ride regularly then a dual pivot brake like the 6402 is far better.
So you can see which groupset I like practical ones. Your frame looks practical that why.
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I would not spend any money on this frame or this groupset.