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Schwalbe-Gate

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:27 am
by rockdude
FYI- It has come to light that Schwalbe has secretly changed the out there Latex tube for Butyl tubes on there top end Tubulars. There goes 4 about watts...

Schwalbe-Gate

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:27 am
by Weenie

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Re: Schwalbe-Gate

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:13 am
by superdx
Maybe they think it'll reduce punctures. I've had absolutely no luck with their tubulars or clinchers, in any price range.

Re: Schwalbe-Gate

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:09 am
by AGW
^It'd be the other way around, no? Haven't had a puncture since switching to latex.

Of course, I'm sure I just angered the Gods :lol:

Re: Schwalbe-Gate

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:58 am
by F45
Haven't use their stuff since my Duranos started unravelling at the sidewall.

Then the rear didn't last 1500 miles.

Re: Schwalbe-Gate

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:04 am
by finnrambo
I could be wrong but aren't Schwalbe tubs made by Challenge? It seems weird to ditch latex...

Re: Schwalbe-Gate

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:19 pm
by bm0p700f
Schwable one tubeless tyres are good and no tube mean I have those 4 watts back.

Re: Schwalbe-Gate

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:07 pm
by wingguy
Even though you have a much stiffer sidewall and clincher/rim interface? :wink:

Re: Schwalbe-Gate

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:37 pm
by LionelB
I was disapointed to see that the One tubulars I got about 2 months ago came with a butyl tube. They are riding ok so far.

Re: Schwalbe-Gate

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:18 pm
by Miller
Because they want to sell into a triathlete market where in their one big event of the year the bike has to be put into a closed transition area the evening before race day? Which would be long enough for a latex tube to be losing significant pressure.

Re: Schwalbe-Gate

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:25 am
by pantelones
Miller wrote:Because they want to sell into a triathlete market where in their one big event of the year the bike has to be put into a closed transition area the evening before race day? Which would be long enough for a latex tube to be losing significant pressure.


I think you give Schwalbe too much consideration... the more likely reason is to reduce cost. Butyl is cheaper and probably easier/faster for the supply chain to procure compared to latex.

Re: Schwalbe-Gate

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:30 pm
by jimborello
Really?? Now I understand why my Schwalbe One tubulars are holding air so well. Before I had the Ultremos and I had to inflate them every time I used the bike. Having said that, I think I will keep buying tubulars with a Latex tube... 4 watts are 4 watts.

Re: Schwalbe-Gate

Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2015 8:30 pm
by Weenie

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