WIDE tubeless road?

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by 520 Dan

Does anyone know of any wide tubeless road tires? Everything seems super narrow and doesn't measure true to size. I had schwalbe ones (23) that were a little narrow but I really liked them. The 25s are pretty hard to get in the US through my LBS. I just mounted a specialized turbo 24 which measured at 21. I am running new Dura Ace tubeless wheels which although not the widest rim in the industry are pretty wide and shouldn't be affecting tire width much.

Any alternatives people have had luck with?

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by tinozee

Hutchinson makes a wide one, a 25 and 28. You will get a little lightbulb effect using on standard/narrow rims but they roll fine. I ride the 25s down pretty low around mid70s psi and never had a flat or a burp. It's not the fastest rolling setup, but it feels good low psi and it's durable, so it's a great training choice for me. Aside from these i ride tubulars which are even better, but time consuming and pricey.

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by Miller

The wide Hutchinson is the Secteur (Sector) which is available in 28mm and gets great reviews.

Site host Starbike lists the Schwalbe One tubeless in stock in 28mm. I have the 25mm One tubeless and it's a lovely tire.

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by 520 Dan

Thanks for the info, I knew about the hutchinsons, do they actually measure that wide though? The earlier hutchinsons did not measure true to size which is the main issue I am having now.

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by nlouthan

Bontrager offers two tubeless tires in 25c width.

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by martinSL

The actual tire width depends also on the width of the rim the tire is mounted on. ONE tubeless 23 are about 24.2mm on Rolf Prima ARES4 and ARES6 wheels with 27mm Delta Rim Profile (it was a surprise to me as most Schwalbe tires seam to run a bit narrower compared to the specs). ONE tubeless 25mm are about 25.8mm wide on the same rims. I have never mounted and measured ONE 28mm tubeless. All three widths of the ONEs use the same compound.
Hutch Sector 28 run true to the size on ARES4 - they are significantly less supple then ONEs and more puncture resistant - good tubeless tire for puncture prone environments
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by FIJIGabe

martinSL is partially correct. The width of the tire really does depend on the wheel it is mounted to, but some tires do not reach the advertised width. Case in point are the Hutchinson Intensives. Even though they are quoted at 25c, I never got close to the advertised width. Even on my current 303's, the widest measured was in the 24mm range (the 23c Fusions measured wider). I've had good luck with my current Bontrager tires, but they only go to 25c, so you're limited to Hutchinson Sector 28's or Schwalbe One 28.

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by 520 Dan

Exactly. I have had tubed Conti gp4000s on these same wheels that were wider than advertised but it seems tubeless tires are notoriously under-spec. Any tire that labeled 25 actually came in at 25 would be great.

So people have had luck with the Bontragers?

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by bm0p700f

Tubeless tyre have a less flexible carcass so they will come up undersized. My 25mm One tubeless tyres on Pacenti SL23 rims (these are wide) are 24mm wide in reality. Should have fitted the 28's really. I agree they are good tyre for a clincher but next to a good tubular...

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by FIJIGabe

Well, my post dispelled the notion that they're undersized. my 23c Fusions were in the 24.5mm range, same for my 23c Bontrager R3 TLR's. The Intensives are notorious for coming in undersized. Not sure about the Schwalbe's, since I've never used them.

I've had good luck with the Bontragers, so far. I've had one flat, but I had a nail go right through the tire. I was able to patch it and keep using it, but it gave up the ghost overnight last week, and I had to replace it. It was a pretty nasty puncture, too.

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The Hutchinson Secteur measures 26mm on a 15c rim, and I would think they are true to size on a 17c rim.
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by maddog 2

28 Sectors are bang-on 28mm on a 23mm Archetype rim

28 Schwalbe Ones are 29mm on a 23mm Archetype rim.

Sectors wear well, but their wet grip is poor. The Ones are much better in this respect.

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My Secteurs are 28mm wide on Pacenti SL23 and SL25 rims and almost 30mm on Stan's Iron Cross rims. I keep them at 60psi or under for the Pacenti rims and under 50psi for the Stan's.

Great tires in my opinion. I don't challenge the grip levels in the wet so I'll take someone else's word on that. The do roll nice and fast and don't seem to require significantly more effort at high speeds.

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by aaric

Secteurs are nice tires. I rode the crap out of a set of mine on training wheels. They seemed to roll as well or better than Fusion 3s, which always seemed strange to me.

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by FIJIGabe

Do the Secteurs cut up as easily as the Fusions or Intensives? I'm interested in a set for my Crockett, to use on roads, but had a lot of bad luck with both the aforementioned tires, getting all cut up from rocks and debris where I ride. I don't think I ever wore out a set of those tires.

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