Baum Ristretto vs Pegoretti Marcello

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Mine had impeccable welds, not that I would be staring at them though.

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LionelB what Pegoretti have you got?

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LionelB wrote:Mine had impeccable welds, not that I would be staring at them though.

That's exactly what I'd be staring at :)
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Harmitc wrote:LionelB what Pegoretti have you got?

I had a Marcelo

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by Harmitc

Calnago wrote:
LionelB wrote:Mine had impeccable welds, not that I would be staring at them though.

That's exactly what I'd be staring at :)


Glad I'am not the only one!!

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by Kayrehn

If you pay mega bucks for your dream frame, you'll actually want to stare hard at all the details trying to find imperfections (and hoping you'll find none!) It's an incurable mental disease you will contract upon handling over your money...

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by Harmitc

Off course you can file down a weld, off course you can fill it. You can judge basic qualities by looking at it. Apart from being inconsistent in finish, frames I've viewed have had undercutting which is a sign of possible weakness. Would it matter on a bike, probably not. But to me, when I'am paying all that money to have less than 10 tubes stuck together I expect it to be good. I don't expect to easily spot untidy detail. The paint finish is beautiful and I'am sure they ride great. I've viewed frames at bike shows on two specific occasions with the intention of placing an order. The first time, welds on the BB were lumpy and unsightly. I didn't expect that on such an expensive frame. I passed on it, didn't order. The following year I went to the same show with the same intention of ordering a frame having read so much about Pegoretti's attention to detail. First frame I looked at had undercutting on the rear welds on both drop outs. Again perfect paint. I didn't place an order and now probably never will. I love the paint and I'am sure they ride like a dream. But with a background in engineering, and fabrication my eye is unfortunately drawn to the detail. Lots of other frames at the same show in the same price bracket showed unmolested welds but of considerably better consistency. I can only speak as I find.

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by wilwil

I too would expect perfect welds at that price. Can a TIG weld be completely smooth once painted? The welds on my Marcelo aren't. But they are better than other welds Ive seen. Maybe it depends if it was built before or after lunch.

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This must be worth a go for the price. A proper race frame aswell. http://www.ukbikesdepot.com/m90b185s804 ... wwodfpMALA

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Harmitc. Out of interest did you find a bike manufacturer that had welds impeccable welds in your view? I certainly don't think the welds on my Peg are unsightly, but i ride it more than i look at it
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bikewithnoname wrote:Harmitc. Out of interest did you find a bike manufacturer that had welds impeccable welds in your view? I certainly don't think the welds on my Peg are unsightly, but i ride it more than i look at it


The exhibition that I mentioned in my post was "Bespoked" a UK show that specialises in handbuilt frames. I wanted (I still do) a frame from a manufacturer with some history and heritage. I also want an Italian manufacturer if possible. As to frames with "impeccable welds". I'am not looking for the impossible. Far from it. Many frames on display would happily meet the criteria. However many are from what I call "new age" builders that while I'am sure ride beautifully don't have the heritage I'am looking for. This is just a sunny Sunday bike. So I want it to be special. Some of the more mundane manufacturers who have much higher outputs seemed more consistent in their quality. I really wanted a Pegoretti, I love the paint, I love the passion that seems to be within the company. But, I also want to open the box and find a frame with consistent tig work, no lumpy bottom brackets and undercut rear drop outs. As has been mentioned, at this level of course you want to ride it, but I also want it to be good detail.

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Harmitc wrote:The exhibition that I mentioned in my post was "Bespoked" a UK show that specialises in handbuilt frames. I wanted (I still do) a frame from a manufacturer with some history and heritage. I also want an Italian manufacturer if possible. As to frames with "impeccable welds". I'am not looking for the impossible. Far from it. Many frames on display would happily meet the criteria. However many are from what I call "new age" builders that while I'am sure ride beautifully don't have the heritage I'am looking for. This is just a sunny Sunday bike. So I want it to be special. Some of the more mundane manufacturers who have much higher outputs seemed more consistent in their quality. I really wanted a Pegoretti, I love the paint, I love the passion that seems to be within the company. But, I also want to open the box and find a frame with consistent tig work, no lumpy bottom brackets and undercut rear drop outs. As has been mentioned, at this level of course you want to ride it, but I also want it to be good detail.


If you want a Peg you have to embrace it all, if you start nitpicking on this or that a Peg is not for you. It would be like asking Dario for a sloping TT.

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by Harmitc

wilwil wrote:Harmitc. Are these smooth enough?
http://www.dario-pegoretti.com/blob/po2 ... t421zg9ahs


I can only comment on what I've seen with my own eyes. Wish I'd never mentioned it now.

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