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PostPosted: Mon Aug 18, 2014 11:40 pm 
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Campag is introducing 11-29 for 2015. It is starting to come through now, so be patient!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 1:06 am 
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12x23 wrote:

I have the first year Super Record 11sp. Seems I was reading somewhere some adjustment was required for this generation r.der. to accomodate a 29t cog. Anyone here know if so, and if so, what changes are required?



(for first generation 11 speed = before 2010 rear derailleur)

Campagnolo 11-Speed Derailleur Mounting Sleeve 12-29 Conversion
For converting Campagnolo 11 speed rear derailleur with 27t max. to 29t


(Campagnolo Indexed Ratchet)

Campagnolo
Mfr Part #: 5-RD-SR004
GTIN: 8033874115770

Example:
http://www.cycle-basar.de/Schaltwerk/Sc ... R-004.html


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:39 am 
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ultimobici wrote:
Campag is introducing 11-29 for 2015. It is starting to come through now, so be patient!


Thanks for the tip ;)

Wonder if they will also offer an 11-28? I suppose with the 11-29 I could ditch my 50/34 and move to a 52/36 combo!


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 5:13 am 
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kode54 wrote:
actually, you can get the last 3 cogs as a 23-26-29...and just replace that cluster. saw some on eBay for around $63.


I got one.. It's rather heavy


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 6:41 am 
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Denavelo wrote:
I've been having this debate with friends for months. Do we really feel the difference from an 11 to a 12 on a descent?

There are times I've raced with my 12-27 and genuinely needed an 11.

Outside of racing, no. But then the OP did not state what the use was for.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:04 am 
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Why not just get a sram? 1190 11-28 they are interchangeable...

Don't get the crappy Duraace -_-


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:08 am 
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Aside from it being Sram, they are not necessarily interchangeable. If, like me, the OP switches cassettes the freehub will be incompatible. Also the distance from dropout to sprocket may be off too.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:09 am 
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I ride DT swiss takes two seconds to change over ;)

then tuning the EPS if I have too, but yet to cross that hurdle


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 4:25 pm 
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ultimobici wrote:
Campag is introducing 11-29 for 2015. It is starting to come through now, so be patient!


Campagnolo has sent a document to all distributors stating that the new 11-29 cassette is not compatible with older derailleurs and EPS. Only with the new 2015 mechanical derailleurs at the moment. It will be compatible with the next gen EPS derailleur wich will have the same geometry as the 2015 mechanical derailleurs.

I'm sure some people will buy it and test it and will somehow work, but officially Campagnolo says its not recommended.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 5:32 pm 
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I have a 11-29 hacked cassette (11-25 & 12-29 combined) which works fine. Methinks Campag just want us to upgrade.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:04 am 
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Thanks, how difficult is this to install?


(for first generation 11 speed = before 2010 rear derailleur)

Campagnolo 11-Speed Derailleur Mounting Sleeve 12-29 Conversion
For converting Campagnolo 11 speed rear derailleur with 27t max. to 29t


(Campagnolo Indexed Ratchet)

Campagnolo
Mfr Part #: 5-RD-SR004
GTIN: 8033874115770

Example:
http://www.cycle-basar.de/Schaltwerk/Sc ... R-004.html[/quote]


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 12:52 am 
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12x23 wrote:
Thanks, how difficult is this to install?


On the Campa official site under section Support there are tutorial vids.
Among them is a vid especially to show how this update is done.
Direct link>
http://www.campagnolo.com/NL/en/Support ... erailleurs

Link to tutorial mainpage>
http://www.campagnolo.com/NL/en/Support ... t#tutorial


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 1:07 am 
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Thanks !!


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:31 pm 
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A cusomter came in with a 11-34T IRD 10 speed Campagnolo cassette. compact chainset and a short cage veloce rear mech (post 2012) and you know what it worked. So I think the 11-29T will work just fine with current mechs.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 22, 2014 10:45 pm 
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I'm not saying it won't work. But, the new derailleur makes the chain wrap around the cassette more than older gen derailleur. Maybe this cassette is optimised for that and using it with older derailleur causes problems. Untill someone tries we won't know till then. Campy has said alot of stuff in the past that didn't work I guess for warranty purposes. I'm using 11 speed chainrings on my 10speed setup and works even better than 10 speed chainrings. I'm using 10 speed chain too. Campy doesn't recommend it.

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