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PostPosted: Sat Aug 16, 2014 8:53 pm 
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Does anyone know exactly what's the difference between '14 and '15 frames? Giant has '15 Propel Advanced 2 (105 group) listed for $2,250, vs. $2,300 '14 Propel Advanced frameset alone. Is this mainly weird marketing stuff or is the '15 frame somehow a downgrade, or both?

And what's the difference between '15 Propel Advanced and Propel Advanced Pro? It looks like the new Pro is equivalent to the previous model year Advanced ($2,350 for the frameset). But I don't see any differences, except that Pro has the chainstay-integrated speed/cadence sensor (RideSense) and Advanced does not.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 3:15 am 
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Pro bikes have carbon steer tubes vs non pro having alloy.

Pro bikes have a higher spec cockpit and parts group (NON DRIVE TRAIN PARTS). Pro defy models have hydraulic disc brakes vs cable.

Frames are all the same.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 17, 2014 5:21 am 
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Aha! Yes, I see this now in the specs. '15 Advanced has "alloy/composite hybrid OverDrive steerer". '14 Advanced and '15 Advanced Pro have "full-composite OverDrive 2 steerer, integrated OverDrive2 sealed cartridge bearing headset".


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 4:37 am 
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just to add OD2 Steerer would require Giant or Easton OD2 stems.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 5:00 am 
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Or Ritchey


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:21 am 
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The new Giant font is definitely a downgrade and has some uncanny similarities to the new Jagwire font, hmmm..


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 9:52 pm 
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shotgun wrote:
just to add OD2 Steerer would require Giant or Easton OD2 stems.


Since when does Easton make an OD2 stem? I thought it was only Giant, Ritchey, Syntace (they stopped), Pro (for the team) and Level Nine.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 12:50 am 
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All I know is that the black and orange one is really making me think....


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:35 pm 
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It looks really good in person. I should know it's in my living room right now :mrgreen:

The overdrive steerer might be my favorite riding feature of the bike, makes it feel really solid and confident.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:32 pm 
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Zipp is now making an OD2 stem: http://zipp.com/stems/service-course-sl-os-stem/

I think it is the best looking of the OD2 stems.


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