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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:58 pm 
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I saw this chart over on Bike Rumor from a new company making bottom brackets.

This company is offering, or will offer, an option for every possible BB configuration. So, if there is not an option currently or soon to be available, it pretty much means that you can't put that type of crankset on that type of frame.

http://brimages.bikeboardmedia.netdna-c ... -chart.jpg


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:27 pm 
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It might be me, but what's the company's name?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:30 pm 
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Never mind - www.kogel.cc though site not available yet

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 4:35 pm 
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Yeah, I didn't post this to advertise the company, but to provide a pretty comprehensive chart of bb compatibility.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 04, 2014 6:46 pm 
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Maybe I'm missing something. Is that chart just listing whether there is an adapter available currently by them or someone else? Or just them? That would make more sense.

Taken on a lot with that project/offering. See how graceful they can implement that. Some adapters are kind of Jerry-Rigs with spacers etc...be nice to have more of a "native" offering that doesn't require goofy/PITA spacers, testing etc..to get it to work.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:06 am 
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Dear bicycle manufacturers,

With only 11 bottom bracket designs to choose from, I sincerely hope your engineers are hard at work creating bold new ones that will provide absolutely nothing in the way of a performance improvement but will continue to annoy the hell out of everyone who happens to swap parts on their bikes.


PS. The only thing that should have been done with bottom brackets is get rid of Italian.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:03 am 
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topflightpro wrote:
This company is offering, or will offer, an option for every possible BB configuration.


I don't know how accurate your term 'every possible' is. Table does not include Miche EvoMax of Stronglight ActivLink.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:01 am 
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I see some value in doing a chart like this, but in most cases there are solutions already available, so I'm not sure what the company is really trying to do except reinvent a lot of wheels.

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His solution was to make dedicated bottom brackets for every combination. The idea was to provide a purpose built bottom bracket for whatever style frame you have to fit whatever style crankset you have. Wanna stick a SRAM GXP crankset in a BB386EVO frame? Or a Shimano 24mm in a BB30 frame? No problem.


Here's the article

http://www.bikerumor.com/2014/08/03/kogel-bottom-brackets-debut-solutions-for-every-frame-wo-adapters/

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 12:32 pm 
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JackDaniels wrote:
Dear bicycle manufacturers,

With only 11 bottom bracket designs to choose from, I sincerely hope your engineers are hard at work creating bold new ones that will provide absolutely nothing in the way of a performance improvement but will continue to annoy the hell out of everyone who happens to swap parts on their bikes.


PS. The only thing that should have been done with bottom brackets is get rid of Italian.


:lol: Too true..and ironically Pinarello come out with a new bike this year using...Italian threads :roll:


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:09 pm 
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Whoever put it together didn't check it to well. e.g. Rotor have an ITA30 bottom bracket.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 1:56 pm 
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or that no matter what BB you use, you're never going to get a Zipp crank to work in a BB86 frame...


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:11 pm 
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Bogan wrote:
Whoever put it together didn't check it to well. e.g. Rotor have an ITA30 bottom bracket.

It seems to be just their own compatible BBs.
For instance, the Campag threaded BB for English and Italian frames is a set of bearings rather than the Campag UT cups.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2014 3:07 pm 
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Their BB30 > Campy UT solution appears to be a direct copy of the Campy cups. So as I said already, I'm not understanding the point of some of their solutions.

If they can do better than Praxis they might have a product, but so far I'm not getting it.

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