Sarto Custom Energia Road Disc: Reviewed

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maxxevv wrote:Viner.


Went bust...now owned by Planet-X. Many of the lower-end bikes in recent times were from the far east except for the steel and top end frames like the Mitus, Maxima. The guy who did the high-end/custom frames (Maxima etc) is Marco, the guy behind Legend Cycles (http://www.legendfactory.eu/)

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Ooh .. when was that ?

Looks like I haven't been keeping up with things for way too long there!

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I think it was 2011 or 2012, can't recall exactly. Planet-X have had the brand a few months but only just released a couple of models. No idea how it works now, I do know one model is the Maxima design and the other is made in the east.

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ergott wrote:Can you elaborate on this?

"There’s also a spoke dish offset required."

Are you talking about the standard offset of a front disc hub or something else?



Nope. Just talking about the normal angle differences for disc...

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TimW wrote:
maxxevv wrote:Viner.


Went bust...now owned by Planet-X. Many of the lower-end bikes in recent times were from the far east except for the steel and top end frames like the Mitus, Maxima. The guy who did the high-end/custom frames (Maxima etc) is Marco, the guy behind Legend Cycles (http://www.legendfactory.eu/)



Yep. That's why I'm thinking Sarto are the oldest family continuously and exclusively producing in Italy... There are lots of older company names but most of them have gone off shore and or have sold out of the business (or both).

I'm not sure, (which is why I'm saying "I'm not sure") but I can't think of anyone...

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CharlesM wrote:
ergott wrote:Can you elaborate on this?

"There’s also a spoke dish offset required."

Are you talking about the standard offset of a front disc hub or something else?



Nope. Just talking about the normal angle differences for disc...



Figured as much. Wording just threw me for a loop.

Looks like a 160mm rotor up front an 140mm rear in the pics. Did the revised Sram come with a 140?

What about tire clearance. Can you get some FMB PRs or the like in there?

Looks like a fun bike. I can attest to the amazingness of hydraulic disc for the road (I have Shimano). Not everyone needs it, but man I'm glad I have it.

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I'll look at it when I'm home but I'm betting PRs (25 will work, 27...?) are ok. I'll put a set of 28s on and see... It's not tight as is.

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i asked to Sarto i wanted to buy this frame ...

i live in Italy and price is not cheaper as i expected ...

damn ....
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Eliflap, email me... charles@pezcyclingnews.com

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sure
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Yeah, so 28's fit this... And ride so well it's silly.

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Charles, how long have you been riding this?
What's your take on brake pad wear with the discs?

I ride frequently with a friend who runs discs. While it's obvious his stopping power his great (he hits the brakes a lot later when coming up to a light, for example) - more often than not his pad is getting worn down to the metal clip, whereas I'm running blues on carbon rims and have plenty of life left... we ride about the same terrain/distances/miles in a year.
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Their frames are awesome. Their website, like many italian firms, totally dysfunctional mess...
Italy needs help!

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sorry for italian websites ... probably they are not international oriented ...

italy needs help for a lot of most important other reasons, this is sure !
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prendrefeu wrote:Charles, how long have you been riding this?
What's your take on brake pad wear with the discs?
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That's a reasonable question. I have been swapping and trying pads frequently enough that I cant reasonably answer. The first sets had fairly light wear. I guess I should stick oto one instead of trying compounds for a while and maybe caliper them.

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