Cervelo new R5 or Cannondale SuperSix Evo HiMOD
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Heads R5, tails Super 6...You can't lose.
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Both are excellent bikes, you can't go wrong really. Pick the one with the more attractive paint colour and BB standard that will work with the groupset you're contemplating.
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Big big cervelo fan...
there are pros/cons for both bike..
Cervelo
what crank to use
Aero advantage
Cannondale
I think there are just a few more warranty issues. (but it's close)
I would guess that you can get last year's EVO cheaper
I think the geometry is a little different so that should most likely be the deciding factor.
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there are pros/cons for both bike..
Cervelo
what crank to use
Aero advantage
Cannondale
I think there are just a few more warranty issues. (but it's close)
I would guess that you can get last year's EVO cheaper
I think the geometry is a little different so that should most likely be the deciding factor.
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Yeah, if your position is quite aggressive you might need to size down and use a long -17 stem on the R5, if it's quite relaxed you might find the Supersix is too long or too low. Anywhere in between you'd probably be fine.
Beyond that it probably comes down to colour scheme and what crank you want to use tbh.
Beyond that it probably comes down to colour scheme and what crank you want to use tbh.
If I had to replace my R3SL those are the two frames I'd consider. I'd probably lean towards the Cannondale if prices were roughly the same, due to compatibility with their excellent crank (and more cranks in general) and the shorter head tube. But I prefer the looks of a more sloped top tube of the Cervelo and I like mine so much that another one would be an obvious choice.
The fit of both bikes are different. As mentioned already the R5 is a bit more relaxed geometry. The EVO is much more aggressive, in general you will be sitting longer and lower. If you want a more aggressive posture, then the SuperSix EVO is the way to go.
But either way you go, you will be a happy rider, guaranteed. Pick the one that you like best!
But either way you go, you will be a happy rider, guaranteed. Pick the one that you like best!
geometry shouldn't matter unless you are VERY aggressive on the front end fit. I was pondering this choice as well, evo vs cervelo, both great bikes.
advantage evo for crank choice, advantage cervelo for cabling options (who knows when you might get the bug for di2). The fact that the evo frames aren't at least drilled for di2 is silly in my mind.
advantage evo for crank choice, advantage cervelo for cabling options (who knows when you might get the bug for di2). The fact that the evo frames aren't at least drilled for di2 is silly in my mind.
Cervelo can't run true BB30 cranks as BBright is too wide.
I have an evo and love it. That said I think almost all the evo colour schemes are awful.
I would agree you can't go wrong. An evo could be built up slightly lighter ultimately because of better crank choice. Esp if looking to run a powermeter (SISL2 + stages)
I have an evo and love it. That said I think almost all the evo colour schemes are awful.
I would agree you can't go wrong. An evo could be built up slightly lighter ultimately because of better crank choice. Esp if looking to run a powermeter (SISL2 + stages)
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NiFTY wrote:Cervelo can't run true BB30 cranks as BBright is too wide.
I have an evo and love it. That said I think almost all the evo colour schemes are awful.
I would agree you can't go wrong. An evo could be built up slightly lighter ultimately because of better crank choice. Esp if looking to run a powermeter (SISL2 + stages)
This x100
I sell both bikes - R5 fit is more relaxed and that's a significant consideration if you want an aggressive fit, or an aggressive-looking fit... SiSL2 crank makes EVO the winner for me, but the R5 is a great looking bike (finally!)
Flip a coin if you feel you can fit both.
I would go for Cervelo, it's easier to make relaxed geometry more aggressive, size down, using -17 stems, etc. But it's harder to make aggressive geometry more comfortable without those ugly spacers. Longer stem and slammed is a way better look then short and tall.
Isn't a tall head tube and a -17 degree stem heavier than a shorter head tube (and fork) and a +7 (or some angle) stem? The amount of extra material there seems wasteful.
I think that a low head tube and a +7 stem looks industrial and purposeful, which matches many carbon racing frames. Looks are in the eye of the beholder.
I think that a low head tube and a +7 stem looks industrial and purposeful, which matches many carbon racing frames. Looks are in the eye of the beholder.
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Thank you for all the answers.
I'll add a couple more details.
I currently ride a Cervelo Soloist Carbon in size 48. Fits me well and I appreciate the generous drop even using (just) a -6 degree stem and no spacers.
The R5 has the same stack and reach as the Soloist so I'm be able to match the exact same position directly.
On the Cannondale both the 48 and the 50 allow me to match my current position.
A couple of images riding the soloist:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 84770ab627
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 7606_n.jpg
As for the built, Shimano 9000 is on the top of the list. The crankset can vary from the group.
I'll add a couple more details.
I currently ride a Cervelo Soloist Carbon in size 48. Fits me well and I appreciate the generous drop even using (just) a -6 degree stem and no spacers.
The R5 has the same stack and reach as the Soloist so I'm be able to match the exact same position directly.
On the Cannondale both the 48 and the 50 allow me to match my current position.
A couple of images riding the soloist:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 84770ab627
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/ ... 7606_n.jpg
As for the built, Shimano 9000 is on the top of the list. The crankset can vary from the group.