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 Post subject: New TT bike
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:39 pm 
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Hi guys

I have started my search for a new time trial bike.

I have tried a lot of bikes:
- Giant Trinity advanced sl
- Trek speed concept
- Canyon speedmax cf
- Cannondale slice rs

But everytime i find to many brake issues or similar problems. Now i Want a bike without integrated brakes or at least front brake.

I have been looking at the new Cervelo P3 2014 or a Felt DAC.

Anyone who has experience about these bikes or other suggestions for a great frame?


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 Post subject: Re: New TT bike
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:23 pm 
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If the stack height is right for you the P3 is quite hard to go past.
DA can be a bit of a pain if you can't get hold of the correct stem.
Scott Plasma Premium is fast and uses normal calipers.
They're all nice bikes, just make sure you get something that suits your position and possibly allows position changes.

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 Post subject: Re: New TT bike
PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:30 pm 
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What size P3 are you looking at?


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 Post subject: Re: New TT bike
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:39 am 
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Fit is always the key factor. I do really love my Scott Plasma 2. Mine is the earlier version with the ISP seat mast.

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 Post subject: Re: New TT bike
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:18 am 
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Hi,

I have Pm'd you with the contact details for Mark Stemmy of Optimized Cycling Solutions. He can probably hook you up with custom made at a great price.


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 Post subject: Re: New TT bike
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:32 pm 
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Lapierre? Lovely looking and not that common. Look have a rather nice looking frameset also.


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 Post subject: Re: New TT bike
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:09 pm 
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I assume you're looking at a TT bike to gain speed… the reason why you ALWAYS start with fit is that the rider accounts for the vast majority of the drag, hence that's what you want to maximize. You will be significantly faster on a well fitting round tube bike than on an ill-fitting super TT bike. Start off with your body position and then buy the best possible bike that fits YOU.

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 Post subject: Re: New TT bike
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 1:53 pm 
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Current Felt tt frame set should come with a plethora of stems for fit and can accommodate a pretty wide range of fits and personal preferences on the front end as well as zero and offset post offerings. Ill put my vote in for the DAC.

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 Post subject: Re: New TT bike
PostPosted: Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:12 pm 
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audiojan wrote:
Start off with your body position and then buy the best possible bike that fits YOU.


This sort of advice seems sensible... but isn't when you think about it.

Bikes are quite adjustable via stem, risers, seatpost, and saddle.

More importantly, if you are optimizing for speed, then you will need to do a lot of experimenting to find the optimum position. "Getting a fit" is pretty much a joke unless you are doing aero testing at the same time... or at the very least you are getting fit by someone who has done aero testing on a lot of people and has a good eye for what usually works.

The most important consideration is if the stack is so high that you won't be able to get the front end low enough. Otherwise, most frames should be able to accommodate your coordinates so long as you are in the ballpark on size.

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 Post subject: Re: New TT bike
PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:48 pm 
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@WMW - I agree. For my kid we just started with what we thought was the best TT position - narrow grip, flat back, and elbow bend. Pretty much found we could duplicate that position on a number of bikes. I took a bike, set it to the UCI limits and adjusted from there. The bar extensions, stem height, seat height need to be adjusted, but most frames we looked at would work.
The Felt DA2 we finally arrived at (good price) doesn't allow the rear wheel as forward as I'd like. I would like it, when slammed all the way in the dropouts to hit the seat tube. As is there is about a 1cm gap with 20mm profile tyres.


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 Post subject: Re: New TT bike
PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 10:26 pm 
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I have been a huge fan of my bmc tm01. The adjustability of the front end is genius. I had a p3c in the past and currently also have an Argon E118. It takes a LONG time to build properly, but is a very clean setup. On par with the shiv &speedconcept in my book.


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 Post subject: Re: New TT bike
PostPosted: Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:50 am 
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It's not very adjustable, but the Shiv TT is a fantastic bike that's very easy to work on and the brakes actually work. I've gone back to one after a short affair with a P5 that drove me nuts.


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 Post subject: Re: New TT bike
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Love my Scott Plasma 3 TT. Should be able to pick one up fairly cheap as the Plasma 4 and 5 are coming.


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