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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 6:46 am 
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I've been riding an specialized allez for a couple years and I want to upgrade. I have a chance to buy a used 2011 s-works sl3 with less than 2000 miles on it with full sram red and krysium sl for $2300. Or do I buy a brand new specialized sl4 elite 105 for $2600+tax. Regardless of what I chose I will upgrade the frame in about a year to an sworks sl4 or sl5. Thanks for any advice.


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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 7:45 am 
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just fyi, the geometry is a tad different between those models. I'd take the s-works sl3 though.


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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 9:55 am 
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sl3 with sram red is better

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 11:44 am 
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SL5!


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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 2:03 pm 
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^ What he said

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 2:30 pm 
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I'd wait and get the sl5

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 3:05 pm 
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I would go SL3 myself. Would skip SL4 personally. I would also wait for more information on the newly revealed SL5, but my guess is the SL5 won't offer too much of an improvement (maybe it will if you are at extremes of frame size?). I was disappointed by why Specialized revealed in the SL5. Just remember newer isn't always better (as SL4 shows). Sometimes newer takes a step back and/or changes are so minimal they don't really justify price increase.

I'd take a SL3 S-Works with SRAM Red over a SL4 Elite any day if the week. I personally would skip the upgrade to the SL5 and just add a Allez to the quiver for bad weather and crit races. Just my $0.02.

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 3:12 pm 
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What's wrong with the sl4?

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 3:15 pm 
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SL3 seems to be a better way. I would think going from a SL4 to a SW SL4 is going to be little difference, not enough that I would see [except for the weight]. Going from a SL4 to the newest version would be a small improvement.

Having a nice frame with 105 parts is just weird.


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What's wrong with the sl4?



Not sure I ever said there was anything "wrong" with the SL4. I just thing the SL3 is a better frame from my time riding the two. In addition, I would rather take a SL3 S-Works frame over a SL4 Elite frame.

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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2014 4:06 pm 
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And, he's looking to buy the newest version next year.


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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:33 am 
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Get the SL3 with nice parts over the SL4.
I really liked my SL3, but my current SL4 is an excellent bike.
You can't go wrong with either.


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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2014 8:48 am 
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On the new Tarmac (which apparently isn't the SL5 :roll: ), if you're on a 56, the SL4 is basically the same performing bike in most respects, and the 54 SL4 is actually even stiffer. It's the smaller and bigger sizes that have been adjusted for stiffness, steering, and compliance relative to the SL4.....but the SL3 is still a great bike from everything I've heard and if you're gonna be possibly breaking and having to replace it, I'd just get an SL3.


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What's wrong with Allez? Yes, Tarmac offer refined road feel, negligebly stiffer for those who can dance on pedals at 1200+ watts.

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