When TS asks for an opinion then that's what he gets and thus it should be taken as such.
It was just amusing that it was the same thing a Belgian Mechanic said in the eighties.
Comparing the evolution from index shifting to ergo shifting to electronic shifting seems like comparing apples to oranges to me.
Going from ergo to electronic isn't that great a breakthrough functionally speaking. The action of a couple of fingers is now relayed to a few electronically controlled DC motors which depend on a battery supply to function.
Functionality wise I agree, but what you should recognize as grognard that Electronic shifting gets better press from the hardcore crowd than SLR and SIS got. Indeed, it's not just Shimano as usually, even Campa is now aboard.
I'd rather not depend on a battery but just on my legs and that couple of fingers.
For the same reasons as stated higher up, I don't think
I'll ever buy into disc brakes either. I just don't need them. That does not mean I do not welcome evolution or progress, I do. I'll only buy into it when I feel it brings me something I'm missing.
As it stands, neither does, so....
Key difference being the word think. On disc brakes. You might not need them, but if that becomes the leading form factor I wonder how long people will hold out. Or are you telling me you need the jump from 8 to 11 speed?
I understand your opinion, indeed, I'm almost certainly much more conservative in my gear than you are, but never is rather long