HOT: Active* forum members generally gain 5% discount at starbike.com store!
Weight Weenies
* FAQ    * Search    * Trending Topics
* Login   * Register
HOME Listings Blog NEW Articles FAQ Contact About




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:13 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:54 am
Posts: 25
Went out on a canyon ride today with my new Mavic R-sys SLR wheels with the standard Yksion Powerlink tires. Got two flats, one in the front and one in the back, both from punctures in the tire. Seems that the tires are pretty thin to save weight, but subsequently not very durable. I had been riding on Continental 4000S which had zero problems with punctures.

Two questions...
1. Is my experience with the Yksion tires a fluke? Have others experienced similar challenges with these tires?
2. Anyone know a good replacement tire that will still maintain a similar minimalist look that would match the R-sys SLR's?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:41 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:26 pm
Posts: 176
Location: Germany
One of my mates had two flats on his maiden ride with the Yksions too. He directly went back to the GP4000S.

_________________
“I want to clear my conscience. I don’t want to be part of the problem any more.”


Top
 Profile  
 
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:41 pm 


Top
  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 10:42 pm 
Offline

Joined: Sat Feb 16, 2013 10:17 pm
Posts: 10
Wow! You could have read my mind. I'm in a similar position with the same wheels except I haven't ridden mine yet. I ride on GP4000s all the time and find they are very well suited to roads I cycle and have been wondering if the Mavic tyres will be more puncture prone. Really interested to hear the feedback on both of your questions.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:50 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu May 14, 2009 12:19 pm
Posts: 1042
Location: Norway
I think my Yksion tires were quite a lot narrower than the GP4000s 23mms I'm used to. The reduced width definitely makes them flat more easily..

_________________
djconnel wrote:
If you really wanted to save weight, get off the bike and run.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 11:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 02, 2012 8:33 pm
Posts: 89
Location: Los Angeles, California, USA
I've had exceptional luck with three different sets of the 2012 Yksion Griplink/Powerlink tires (slick version, 2013+ are "Pro" and have tread). I've had three flats in a span of 18 months, and two out of three of those flats were due to large shards of glass on urban streets.

Luck of the draw, I suppose...

_________________
Long live the horizontal top tube, standard crankset, and Italian threaded bottom bracket.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 12:40 am 
Offline

Joined: Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:33 am
Posts: 217
I have two sets of tubulars (slicks older style). No problems, granted they are tubular


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 5:35 am 
Offline
Moderator
User avatar

Joined: Sat Mar 14, 2009 6:08 am
Posts: 7464
Location: Geeeelong!
djm wrote:
The reduced width definitely makes them flat more easily..

Would be interested to read something more to back that up? As I'm trying to wrap my head around something that has a more narrow (albeit slightly longer) contact patch is more likely to flat?

Otherwise, my experience on the tyres is that they are fine. Mine flatted after a big piece of glass ripped it open (low light, didn't see it and would have spelled the end of any tyres). One also slashed after I rode on roads more suited to a mtb.

I prefer Conti's, but to keep the bike looking Pro (and looking like you're running singles) you'd have to stick with the Mavic tyres. Other combos, for me, haven't succeeded in replicating the aesthetics.

_________________
http://www.nicksquillari.com.au Forum Jedi


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:30 am 
Offline

Joined: Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:43 pm
Posts: 35
I've been running a set of '13 Powerlink/Griplink pro for about 1,300km and (knock on wood) zero flats. Was pretty skeptical at first after hearing all the reviews so I thought i'll just replace it once it flats/wears out since it came with my bike. Even went off the road once to ride some country farm/gravel road a few times and they held up. Decent tires from my experience but again YMMV.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:45 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 04, 2006 4:43 pm
Posts: 5096
Location: Wherever there's a mountain beckoning to be climbed
TP, I don't have data, but I think the belief is that though a narrower tire may be less likely to run over something which could cause a flat than a wider tire, a narrower tire will have greater force on the spot at which an object is run over (because the weight of the rider and bike is distributed over a smaller contact patch), thereby increasing the probability that the run over thing will penetrate the tire enough to cause a flat, and this increased probability of getting a flat given that something is run over, more than makes up for the decreased probability of running over something which could cause a flat.

Think of it as the probability of getting a flat is the probability of running over something which could cause a flat, times the probability of getting a flat given that you run over something which could cause a flat. A narrower tire decreases the first term. but increases the second term, and their product (supposedly) increases for a narrower tire.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:11 am 
Offline

Joined: Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:07 pm
Posts: 573
Interesting thread, as my circa 2012 R-Sys front Ypsilon flatted its maiden and second rides out, after nearly a year on the same route on Conti 4000s's without a puncture. Each time it was smacking into the lip of a small pothole that did it. Anecdotal, might have happened on other tires, could be coincidence, etc., but who knows. I prefer the Conti's overall anyway.

_________________
Summer -- 2011 Cannondale SuperSix HiMod 6.19 kg.
Winter -- 2005 Fuji Team Issue 6.6 kg.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 7:07 pm 
Offline

Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 7:54 am
Posts: 25
Thanks for the replies..

Sounds like the Mavic Yksion tires are generally a bit less durable than others. Although with anything YMMV..

Anyone had any experience with thorn resistant tubes? I know this would not fit with the weight weenies spirit, but if I wanted to keep the same look SLR look, would using thorn resistant tubes help?


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 7:34 pm 
Offline

Joined: Thu May 14, 2009 12:19 pm
Posts: 1042
Location: Norway
Tinea Paedis, my thinking is not backed up by anything but the belief that the reduced area of contact results in a more powerful impact with sharp objects, stones, glass, rocks etc. and thus requires more resilience by the tyre material.

_________________
djconnel wrote:
If you really wanted to save weight, get off the bike and run.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:15 am 
Offline

Joined: Mon Feb 17, 2014 5:47 am
Posts: 31
Don't think thorn resistant tubes would help much at all...the bulk of the protection is the tire itself, once an object goes through that, it's over. A lot of the Vittoria line have great durability and are fairly good rollers too...


Top
 Profile  
 
Posted: Fri Feb 21, 2014 6:15 am 


Top
  
 
PostPosted: Sat Feb 22, 2014 1:55 am 
Offline

Joined: Fri Feb 21, 2014 11:22 pm
Posts: 11
I've been meaning to try some Schwalbe One clinchers. They're quite minimal looking and seem to have some puncture resistance compared to the Ultremos:

http://roadcyclinguk.com/gear/schwalbe- ... eview.html


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Baidu [Spider], Yahoo [Bot] and 34 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  

   Similar Topics   Author   Replies   Views   Last post 
There are no new unread posts for this topic. Cable stop replacement for Di2.

in Road

Thanh

1

312

Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:56 pm

Thanh View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Replacement Campagnolo Neutron rim?

[ Go to page: 1, 2 ]

in Road

wilwil

15

819

Thu Oct 16, 2014 6:16 pm

wilwil View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Look Keo 2 Max Metal Plate Replacement

in Road

cajer

6

469

Wed May 07, 2014 7:50 pm

cajer View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Replacement Ultegra 6800 converter pin

in Road

JKS

7

502

Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:56 am

JKS View the latest post

There are no new unread posts for this topic. Help to verify freehub body replacement

in Road

sdexter

10

726

Fri Feb 21, 2014 2:42 pm

goodboyr View the latest post


It is currently Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:17 am

All times are UTC + 1 hour




Advertising   –  FAQ   –  Contact   –  Convert   –  About

© Weight Weenies 2000-2013
hosted by starbike.com


How to get rid of these ads? Just register!


Powered by phpBB