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 Post subject: Enve Compact Flex
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:20 am 
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Just got some Enve compacts and very nice bars all around. Changed only my bars (was running 3T Rotundo pros) and have noticed that these flex quite a bit in the drops. Not that I'm a powerhouse nor that they were marketed as uber stiff, but has anyone else noticed this about them? Might have to put them up for sale and go back to AL....

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 Post subject: Re: Enve Compact Flex
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:00 am 
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Yes they are quite Flexy - Try 3T Rotundo Team or Ltd - Nice and stiff and light. All 3T carbon bars seem to be.


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 Post subject: Re: Enve Compact Flex
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 1:51 am 
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I've found the Rotundo Team to be pretty flexy as well. I couldn't deal with it. I had to use the Rotundo Pro. I've since moved all my road and cx bikes to Pro Vibe round bars. Some carbon, some alu. The Pro brand carbon bars are the only ones I've used that are as stiff (or stiffer) as others aluminum offerings.

The Thomson KFC carbon bars are also very stiff and come in under weight, if you're looking for a compact bend in a stiffer package.


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 Post subject: Re: Enve Compact Flex
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:14 am 
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KWalker wrote:
Just got some Enve compacts and very nice bars all around. Changed only my bars (was running 3T Rotundo pros) and have noticed that these flex quite a bit in the drops. Not that I'm a powerhouse nor that they were marketed as uber stiff, but has anyone else noticed this about them? Might have to put them up for sale and go back to AL....


i suppose the wider bars are more flexy...i use the 40cm bars and find them to suit me well...allowing for some vibration reduction in rough roads.

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 Post subject: Re: Enve Compact Flex
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:34 am 
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The new Enve aero road bars will be stiffer according to their presentation at Eurobike..... on the compact bars I find the 42 cm pretty good in stiffness. What stem are you using?

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 Post subject: Re: Enve Compact Flex
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 2:54 am 
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Zipp Service Course SL, 40cm Enve bars. Its the softest road bar I've ever had and while it probably doesn't impact performance, its not exactly confidence inspiring.

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 Post subject: Re: Enve Compact Flex
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For 40 cm bars I find the ENVE above average in stiffness......even on the drops. I will ask ENVE their opinion on this as stiffness is one of their trademarks in most of their products

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 Post subject: Re: Enve Compact Flex
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KWalker wrote:
Zipp Service Course SL, 40cm Enve bars. Its the softest road bar I've ever had and while it probably doesn't impact performance, its not exactly confidence inspiring.


i've had the Zipp Service Course SL stem and bars before switching to the Enve cockpit. my feeling was just the opposite. i feel more confident going over rough roads and patches over the Zipp where i used to slow down going through them. the Enve bar and stem were both in a crash and the only part that suffered damage was my Parlee. Enve 3.4 wheels and cockpit including the Parlee made fork had no damage.

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 Post subject: Re: Enve Compact Flex
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 4:38 pm 
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kode54 wrote:
KWalker wrote:
Zipp Service Course SL, 40cm Enve bars. Its the softest road bar I've ever had and while it probably doesn't impact performance, its not exactly confidence inspiring.


i've had the Zipp Service Course SL stem and bars before switching to the Enve cockpit. my feeling was just the opposite. i feel more confident going over rough roads and patches over the Zipp where i used to slow down going through them. the Enve bar and stem were both in a crash and the only part that suffered any apparent damage so far was my Parlee. Enve 3.4 wheels and cockpit including the Parlee made fork had no damage.


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 Post subject: Re: Enve Compact Flex
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 5:37 pm 
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Want stiff bars without noticeable flex?

Shimano Pro Stealth Evo

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 Post subject: Re: Enve Compact Flex
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:42 pm 
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Svetty wrote:
kode54 wrote:
KWalker wrote:
Zipp Service Course SL, 40cm Enve bars. Its the softest road bar I've ever had and while it probably doesn't impact performance, its not exactly confidence inspiring.


i've had the Zipp Service Course SL stem and bars before switching to the Enve cockpit. my feeling was just the opposite. i feel more confident going over rough roads and patches over the Zipp where i used to slow down going through them. the Enve bar and stem were both in a crash and the only part that suffered any apparent damage so far was my Parlee. Enve 3.4 wheels and cockpit including the Parlee made fork had no damage.


FIFY ;)


thx. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Enve Compact Flex
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 8:21 pm 
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barsook77 wrote:
Want stiff bars without any noticeable flex?

Shimano Pro Stealth Evo


Are you referring to the stem/bar combo? I have one (42/110 stem) and it's certainly the stiffest bar I have experienced. I like the design and cable routing as well. Too bad I don't like the ergo style bend.

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 Post subject: Re: Enve Compact Flex
PostPosted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:57 pm 
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Next week we should have our latest fixture finished which will measure deflection in bars and stems and we'll be testing a ton of different ones so we'll be able to put actual numbers to them.

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 Post subject: Re: Enve Compact Flex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 12:00 am 
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10 $ Canadian says that the enve bar is actually pretty stiff. Its a known fact that perception of stiffness is a pretty poor measure of actual stiffness for components.

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 Post subject: Re: Enve Compact Flex
PostPosted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 6:06 pm 
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I run the enve bar in 42cm. I personally find it a great h.bar-stiff across its top, a bit of flex in drops which helps bump absorption.


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