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 Post subject: Re: Yonex
PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 4:38 am 
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Yonex knows their carbon. They may actually know composites engineering better than most of the 'name brands' you currently consider at the forefront of the industry. ;)


I've been thinking about that and I don't doubt one bit that Yonex are undoubtedly experts in using carbon fiber composites. However, I'm not so sure how golf clubs or tennis racquets translate to cycling. I mean just because you know composites doesn't mean you can build a great bike. There's a lot more to it than just making a pretty frame out of carbon. I don't doubt that Yonex is capable of making a great frame one day, I'll just be surprised if they can do it on the first try...

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 Post subject: Re: Yonex 650 gram frame
PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 5:23 am 
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Lots of R&D go into designing golf clubs. Yonex having superior carbon fiber knowledge and solid R&D will result in a good product. It will be interesting to see how good and how long it takes.


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 Post subject: Re: Yonex 650 gram frame
PostPosted: Wed Dec 25, 2013 11:19 pm 
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I imagine a company like yvonex has a couple of engineers and a proper budget ! Making a proper ridding frame isnt rocket sience


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 Post subject: Re: Yonex 650 gram frame
PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:59 am 
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Can someone do a better translation than Google on this?

They pack in a lot of buzzwords
nanosciience, nanotechnology, X-Fullerenes, "Oval Pressed Shaft (OPS) Theory"
"moderately to vibration while maintaining the rigidity" - I guess this is a high tech version of laterally stiff while vertically compliant.

OPS (Oval Pressed Shaft)

Shaft corners are rounded off for a more ideal flex, and also widens the shaft face for increased stability, producing a longer dwell time (time ball spends on the string face) for increased spin and control.
X-Fullerene Technology

X-Fullerene provides more repulsion power and frame stability than Fullerene

Using a crosslinked network of carbon spheres compared to standard graphite sheets in the sides of the frame improves the internal strength of the frame. The stiffer sides of the frame help to increase ball speed for more power as well as increase torsional stability.

2013.12.17
Released in April Sports Cycle Business newcomers ultra-light carbon bike frame "Cape Nex / CARBONEX" 2014

(: Bunkyo-ku, Tokyo, President: Tsutomu headquarters Yoneyama) Yonex Co., Ltd. will start the development, manufacture and sale of carbon road bike frame set as a sports business cycle anew this time. As a first step, will be released senior model road bike frame "carbs Nex / CARBONEX" from April 2014.

The early adopter of carbon as a material for sporting goods in our company, we have been developing products badminton that produce a high performance to maximize strength and weight characteristics, tennis rackets, golf clubs, and snowboarding. And adopt actively nanoscience, which had been searching for new business in order to take advantage of widely in new areas the high carbon processing technology that has been cultivated for many years, in recent years, but this time, as a sports manufacturer, health promotion of people It is a business that can contribute to, we decided to expand into the bike sports business cycle enthusiasts is increasing popularity is higher as a sport.

Is performed by all consistent our Niigata production headquarters of Nagaoka, Niigata Prefecture With regard to the development and manufacturing, we will produce high quality carbon bike to produce in our own factory in Japan only "Made in Japan".


Challenge to Product Overview lightest! Super lightweight 650g frame

The most important feature of "Carb Nex" is a super lightweight 650g frame that we were bringing together carbon technology research and material of '40. Is the product name "Cape Nex / CARBONEX" is a product name that you used for the carbon first product with a golf club or racket of the Company and is what can be called the origin of the carbon technology of our company.

Aiming for a "road bike of the world's lightest", carbs Nex the precise reconstruction of the elastic rubber-like material and of using the nanotechnology maintain their rigidity strength even if the weight of the material, such as "X-Fullerene" I adopt the frame of each shape to maximize the function of the frame titanium alloy excellent "rubber metal ® ※", "box shape", and "perfect circle". Further, by using "Oval Pressed Shaft (OPS) Theory" shape theory of our racket own and raised following property to a road surface is caused Shinara moderately to vibration while maintaining the rigidity. The new technologies and materials of these, I did it with all-carbon road bike frame that combines rigidity, durability, comfort, yet ultra-lightweight.

※ It is the new titanium alloy of a dream that combines has been considered rubber metal is a new material developed by the Toyota Motor group, and not possible with metal material "low modulus of elasticity" and "high-strength".


Product name CARBONEX (carbs Annexe)
Color Black / Orange
Size All-round type XS · S · M (1 model 3 size)
Release date April 2014
For sale Road race competitor and general senior
Commodity sold Carbon road bike frame set
Manufacturer's suggested retail price 400,000 yen + tax
Country of origin Japan



[The history of our carbon technology]
Adopted racket carbon technology for the first time in the 1980 <br> other companies, lighter to cut the world's first weight 100g badminton racket "Carb Nex 8".
We launched wood club with an integrated Persimmon and 1982 <br> carbon graphite "carbs Nex", entered the golf business.
Release of carbon iron of 1983 <br> world's first.
Entered the snowboard business developed a snowboard of all carbon <br> of 1995 the world's first.
Adopted the 2013 <br> nanoscience material, announces golf shaft announced the world's lightest 36g the "Rekushisukisera" Yonex badminton history lightest racket (73g) the "arc Saver FB"
By combining the 2014 <br> carbon technology, we developed a road bike frame that combines comfort and rigidity while ultra-lightweight 650g, entered the sports business cycle.

Taking advantage of the technology of manufacturing racket
Yonex next spring launched a super-lightweight frame of domestic entrants to 650g carbon frame manufacture and sale
2013/12/17 - 20:01

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Yonex Co., Ltd., known for such as tennis racket manufacturing to new entrants to the carbon frame manufacturing and sales. I will release ultra-light carbon bike frame 650g of the "Cape Nex / CARBONEX" in April 2014. I introduce press release from Yonex.

ヨネックス CARBONEX(カーボネックス) Yonex CARBONEX (carbonate Annexe)

Sports business cycle new entrants
Released in April ultra-light carbon bike frame "Cape Nex / CARBONEX" 2014

(: Bunkyo-ku, Tokyo, President: Tsutomu headquarters Yoneyama) Yonex Co., Ltd. will start the development, manufacture and sale of carbon road bike frame set as a sports business cycle anew this time. As a first step, will be released senior model road bike frame "carbs Nex / CARBONEX" from April 2014.

The early adopter of carbon as a material for sporting goods in our company, we have been developing products badminton that produce a high performance to maximize strength and weight characteristics, tennis rackets, golf clubs, and snowboarding. And adopt actively nanoscience, which had been searching for new business in order to take advantage of widely in new areas the high carbon processing technology that has been cultivated for many years, in recent years, but this time, as a sports manufacturer, health promotion of people It is a business that can contribute to, we decided to expand into the bike sports business cycle enthusiasts is increasing popularity is higher as a sport.

Is performed by all consistent our Niigata production headquarters of Nagaoka, Niigata Prefecture With regard to the development and manufacturing, we will produce high quality carbon bike to produce in our own factory in Japan only "Made in Japan".


Challenge! Super lightweight 650g frame to Product Overview lightest

ヨネックス CARBONEX(カーボネックス): 写真はイメージ Yonex CARBONEX (Carb Annexe): Photo Image
The most important feature of "Carb Nex" is a super lightweight 650g frame that we were bringing together carbon technology research and material of '40. Is the product name "Cape Nex / CARBONEX" is a product name that you used for the carbon first product with a golf club or racket of the Company and is what can be called the origin of the carbon technology of our company.

Aiming for a "road bike of the world's lightest", carbs Nex the precise reconstruction of the elastic rubber-like material and of using the nanotechnology maintain their rigidity strength even if the weight of the material, such as "X-Fullerene" I adopt the frame of each shape to maximize the function of the frame titanium alloy excellent "rubber metal ® ※", "box shape", and "perfect circle". Further, by using "Oval Pressed Shaft (OPS) Theory" shape theory of our racket own and raised following property to a road surface is caused Shinara moderately to vibration while maintaining the rigidity. The new technologies and materials of these, I did it with all-carbon road bike frame that combines rigidity, durability, comfort, yet ultra-lightweight.

※ It is the new titanium alloy of a dream that combines has been considered rubber metal is a new material developed by the Toyota Motor group, and not possible with metal material "low modulus of elasticity" and "high-strength".

ヨネックス CARBONEX(カーボネックス) フレーム構造と技術 And technology (carbs Annexe) frame structure Yonex CARBONEX

CARBONEX (carbs Annexe)
Color Black / Orange size all-round type XS · S · M (1 model 3 size)
400,000 yen + tax Country of origin Japan April for sale road race athletes and general senior sales goods carbon road bike frame set Manufacturer's suggested retail price, 2014 release date

The history of our carbon technology
Adopted in the carbon racket technology ahead of the competition in 1980, lighter to cut the world's first weight 100g badminton racket "Carb Nex 8".
We launched wood club with an integrated Persimmon and 1982 carbon graphite "carbs Nex", entered the golf business.
Release of carbon iron of 1983 the world's first.
Entered the snowboard business developed a snowboard of all carbon in 1995 the world's first.
Adopted the 2013 nano material science, announces golf shaft announced the world's lightest 36g the "Rekushisukisera" ever Yonex badminton racket lightest (73g) the "arc Saver FB"
By combining the 2014 carbon technology, we developed a road bike frame that combines comfort and rigidity while ultra-lightweight 650g, entered the sports business cycle.


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 Post subject: Re: Yonex 650 gram frame
PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 4:03 pm 
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They also make really nice badminton rackets. I used to play badminton bad in the 80s and totally forgot how you already back then carbon took over from alu. Crazy they have not tried to capitalize on their many years of experience sooner. 650g and the bikes looks really nice. Can't wait to hear more.


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 Post subject: Re: Yonex 650 gram frame
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 7:51 am 
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Any more news on this one?


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 Post subject: Re: Yonex 650 gram frame
PostPosted: Wed Feb 19, 2014 9:47 am 
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I translated the important parts of that page:

2013.12.17
A New Entry to the Sports Cycling Business - Ultra Light-Weight Carbon Bike Frame “Carbonex/CARBONEX” To Launch in April 2014

Artist's impression of complete bike (not actual complete bike)

Yonex K.K. (HQ: Bunkyo-ku, Tokyo, President: Mr. Tsutomu Yoneyama) commences the development, manufacture and sale of a carbon road bike frame set as a new entry into the sports cycling business. Our first effort will be the sale of the “Carbonex/CARBONEX” high-end model road bike frame in April 2014.

Yonex was the first to use carbon as a material in sporting goods, developing products such as badminton rackets, tennis rackets, golf clubs and snow boards that make full use of the strength and weight characteristics of carbon…. etc. etc. boring guff

Product Outline - Challenging For The Lightest Weight! Ultralight 650 g Frame

The biggest feature of “CARBONEX” is the ultralight 650 g frame that incorporates 40 years of materials research and carbon technology at Yonex. The name “CARBONEX” was the product name used for the first carbon rackets and golf clubs produced by Yonex, and represents the origin of Yonex’s carbon technology.

Intending for CARBONEX to be “the world’s lightest road bike”, Yonex has utilised materials that incorporate nanotechnology such as “X-Fullerene” to reduce weight while maintaining strength and rigidity, “Rubber Metal®*” titanium alloys with superior, rubber-like formability and elasticity, and frame shapes that deliver maximum frame function such as “Box Form” and “Exactly Circular Form”. Furthermore, by utilising Yonex’s unique Oval Pressed Shaft (O.P.S.) concept, we have improved road feel (?) providing an appropriate degree of compliance with vibration while maintaining rigidity. With these technologies and new materials, Yonex has created an all-carbon road bike frame combining characteristics of rigidity, durability and comfort while also being extremely light.

*”Rubber Metal” is a new material developed by Toyota Motor Corporation, and is an unbelievable new titanium alloy that combines “low elastic modulus” with “high strength” in a way thought heretofore impossible in metals.

Left frame:
Seat stay: Flat-sided seat stays
Top tube: Box shape
BB: something like “Base Connectivity”
Down tube: Exactly circular shape
Head tube: “Base Connectivity” again
Carbon Technology Used in Frame

Right frame:
X-Fullerene used over the entire frame (big yellow circle)
“Rubber Metal” (two small circles)
O.P.S. (one small circle)
Main Materials/Shapes Used in Frame

Product name CARBONEX
Colour Black/Orange
Size “All-round type” XS, S, M (one frame type in three sizes)
On sale from April 2014
Intended for Road race riders, general advanced riders
Recommended retail price 400,000 yen + tax
Made in Japan


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 Post subject: Re: Yonex 650 gram frame
PostPosted: Fri May 02, 2014 11:16 pm 
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Frame is now in the shops (in Japan).

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Official website: http://www.yonex.co.jp/roadbike/


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 Post subject: Re: Yonex 650 gram frame
PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 12:01 am 
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Look forward to seeing some scale shots (do not see any as of now).


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 Post subject: Re: Yonex 650 gram frame
PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 12:22 am 
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What horrible presentation on that site.


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 Post subject: Re: Yonex 650 gram frame
PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 12:44 am 
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With an ipump, that would be only 671 grams. And if not, I'll eat my bike.


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 Post subject: Re: Yonex 650 gram frame
PostPosted: Sat May 03, 2014 9:13 am 
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that's so funny :lol: :twisted:


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