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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 6:40 pm 
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ianSWBB wrote:
A great afternoon at South West Bike Builders today

Got our hands on a C60 frameset - photos on our facebook page - just follow the link below

The Seat Tube and Down Tube are massive!!!!!

BB was interesting - a large hole with an alloy insert, with screw in cups, that will then house an 86mm pressfit BB!!

fork was the same as the C59 fork - double checked it!

can't wait to get one built up and test ridden now :D

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Thanks for posting. I guess the expression "form follows function" certainly applies here.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:12 pm 
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@calnago - thanks for the info on the MTBK you are building. I guess it all depends on the dealer you are using to get those special orders. I found it quite hard to get the colour scheme I wanted when I was ordering my C59 so ended up going for the stock options.

I was doing some research on the C60 bottom bracket, and I guess that I'll need these cups to fit my Chorus Cranks:

http://www.campagnolo.com/jsp/en/groups ... atid_3.jsp

and I'll have to spend some more cash to buy a press fit tool too. Campagnolo says I have to use their own otherwise I might die:

"The use of any other tool may cause damage to the cups and lead to accidents, injury or death"

There is a video on youtube showing how it's done

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjxEPtjk3yY


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 7:37 pm 
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nobrakes71 wrote:
I was doing some research on the C60 bottom bracket, and I guess that I'll need these cups to fit my Chorus Cranks:

http://www.campagnolo.com/jsp/en/groups ... atid_3.jsp


Well that is my understanding also. I've been doing some research for a build myself.

nobrakes71 wrote:
and I'll have to spend some more cash to buy a press fit tool too. Campagnolo says I have to use their own otherwise I might die:

"The use of any other tool may cause damage to the cups and lead to accidents, injury or death"

There is a video on youtube showing how it's done

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjxEPtjk3yY


Are there any recommendations for a suitable press fit tool? Campag's £80 offering is a bit steep... I have only used a very very cheap one when installing a headset before.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:33 pm 
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Yes, they are the correct cups you'll need
Yes, the campag press fit tool works best - but you will find that any decent bearing press tool can be organised to do the job!

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2014 9:30 pm 
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Surely the dealer you buy from will be decent enough to press your cups in for zero cost?


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 10:49 am 
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ianSWBB wrote:
fork was the same as the C59 fork - double checked it!

ianSWBB


I have some doubts on the fact that C59 (2012) and C60(2014) forks are the same.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 11:06 am 
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I really love my C59 and M10. And I must say that for my possibilities and power their stiffness is enough :-)
I have some doubts on the C60 esthetics and behaviour. On my Opinion, tubes are too large, too square. It looks like a exaggerated caricature of the C59. I think Colnago will continue to sell C59 for some years :P

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:13 pm 
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@tortor

OK!! I will be more precise - the 2014 C59 fork is the same as the 2014 C60 fork!!

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 12:27 pm 
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Thanks.
Right. On your picture of C59 2014 fork seems to be different than my C59 2012 fork, but same with C60 fork.
One model production is probably easier than two different models

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 1:19 pm 
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From ianSWBB's FB: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =1&theater

Does anyone else think they might have been able to find a spot for the charging socket, that was not quite as exposed to spray and dirt from the road?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:03 pm 
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ianSWBB wrote:
@tortor

OK!! I will be more precise - the 2014 C59 fork is the same as the 2014 C60 fork!!

regards

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My 2014 c59 fork is not the same as the c60 fork

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 4:38 pm 
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Thanks for that Tortor - I think maybe the stock images (computer generated in the Colnago IT dept) don't have the exact items - we've checked through our 2014 C59 and they have all had the same fork!

@wassertreter - yes, charging point positioning will require more thinking in the future!
Fondriest put it on the seat tube, just above the BB area

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 5:17 pm 
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tortor wrote:
markyboy wrote:
ianSWBB wrote:
@tortor

OK!! I will be more precise - the 2014 C59 fork is the same as the 2014 C60 fork!!

regards

ianSWBB

My 2014 c59 fork is not the same as the c60 fork


It seems that there are 2 different versions of fork for the C59

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My 2014 fork :noidea:

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:01 pm 
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Well that's my explanation for the difference out the window!!
Maybe the very first batch came with the 2013 fork sprayed up in 2014 colours?

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:03 pm 
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@markyboy

In fact it must be that - as I've just noticed you have external EPS, which was only on the very very first batch of 2014 frames

The second and third edition come without the powerunit bracket plate underneath, just a charging point for internal V2 system

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