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Author:  drainyoo [ Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:31 pm ]
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Thanks man. I really appreciate all the photos. This has helped me make a decision on brakes. I have Planet X brakes, and was going to replace them with these, but seeing the weight now I'm going to stick with the Planet X. The difference in weight is only 10g. Looks like the 150g claim by Ciamillo is just for the brakes and pad holders with no hardware. They should be more clear about this on their site.

Author:  Weenie [ Sat Feb 22, 2014 6:31 pm ]
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Author:  CAMSHAFT [ Sat Feb 22, 2014 7:16 pm ]
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Agree! No problem...


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Author:  crimsonbadger [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:31 am ]
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In fairness, you're not going to use all of those washers.

Author:  CAMSHAFT [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:33 am ]
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True


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Author:  drainyoo [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:35 am ]
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Of course, but the brakes and pads alone weight 157g. Add in the hardware and you're over 170g. The claimed weight on the Micros is 150. To me that's way off. They should be clear on what 150g includes because it's definitely not for the full setup.

Again, the Planet X weigh a tiny bit more, have similar performance and cost half the price. Why even get these?

Author:  HammerTime2 [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 4:58 am ]
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Why get these? Let me ask you, does Planet X have a cool guy named Ted, who can personally handle and mishandle product development and your order? Q.E.D.

Author:  Kayrehn [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 6:09 am ]
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Having made a few orders from planet x before, I assure you that their service (from replying emails to refunding purchases for items returned) is impeccable. Service is not really the deal breaker in considering between these brakes imo, performance should be.

Author:  campagnolo321 [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 8:08 am ]
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Are those steel brake pad holder bolts and steel cable anchor bolts ? Please correct me if I'm wrong but Teds website does state "full ti hardware" maybe this is why his brakes are not as light as they once were ! It looks like they are ti on the Gravitas only from what i can see, anyone else have ti or steel bolts on the Micro ?

Author:  Juanmoretime [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 12:42 pm ]
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Not defending Ted but looks pretty clear to me the weight is minus the pads.

http://caw-designs.com/?page_id=715

FWIW Ciamillo brakes used to come with pads but no linger do. When I bought my Gravitas they came with pads when I bought my Gravitas SL's they did not. I understand the reason behind that is everyone prefers a pad for either aluminum, carbon or both and they like a particular brand too. I like Reynolds blue pads for carbon.

Author:  drainyoo [ Sun Feb 23, 2014 3:16 pm ]
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The site does state that the claimed weight is without pads, and people would assume that's with all the needed hardware. But based on the weights presented here, it's now clear that the claimed weight is just for the brakes and pads with no hardware. Ciamillo should be be clear about that.

Author:  crankdxb [ Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:29 am ]
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Another one bitten the dust here, purchased directly last week 14-Mar-2014 with Invoice number 1433. Was tempted with the 2014 GSL's for $220 http://caw-designs.com/?product=black-negative-gsl and after a couple of follow up emails, there's no personal reply from Ted other than auto reply which kind of annoying.
If I saw these thread before, I would never made a dumb decision to purchase directly from his site. I don't want to wait up to 2 months but I'll wait for couple more days if there's an update and if not then cancellation of order will be and hoping to get my refund soon!
Not happy at all! So be aware...

Author:  glepore [ Wed Mar 19, 2014 12:20 pm ]
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crankdxb wrote:
Another one bitten the dust here, purchased directly last week 14-Mar-2014 with Invoice number 1433. Was tempted with the 2014 GSL's for $220 http://caw-designs.com/?product=black-negative-gsl and after a couple of follow up emails, there's no personal reply from Ted other than auto reply which kind of annoying.
If I saw these thread before, I would never made a dumb decision to purchase directly from his site. I don't want to wait up to 2 months but I'll wait for couple more days if there's an update and if not then cancellation of order will be and hoping to get my refund soon!
Not happy at all! So be aware...


I did this as an experiment. Bought Micros on 2/5 for a similar price. He did take them off of the website after I purchased them, but as of last week they hadn't shipped. I simply filed a dispute with the cc company. Something is "up" with the direct sales and very low prices.

Author:  crankdxb [ Wed Mar 19, 2014 1:26 pm ]
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glepore wrote:
crankdxb wrote:
Another one bitten the dust here, purchased directly last week 14-Mar-2014 with Invoice number 1433. Was tempted with the 2014 GSL's for $220 http://caw-designs.com/?product=black-negative-gsl and after a couple of follow up emails, there's no personal reply from Ted other than auto reply which kind of annoying.
If I saw these thread before, I would never made a dumb decision to purchase directly from his site. I don't want to wait up to 2 months but I'll wait for couple more days if there's an update and if not then cancellation of order will be and hoping to get my refund soon!
Not happy at all! So be aware...


I did this as an experiment. Bought Micros on 2/5 for a similar price. He did take them off of the website after I purchased them, but as of last week they hadn't shipped. I simply filed a dispute with the cc company. Something is "up" with the direct sales and very low prices.


Did you manage to get your refund? I always used Paypal, but its not available on Ted's site. It gonna be much more easier to request for a refund if there is.

Author:  glepore [ Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:38 pm ]
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@crankdxb-Immediately, almost. Used a Bank Of America Visa. I made the purchase with the expectation of having to cancel it, given all I've read here. Ended up with a used set of Planet X's.

Author:  Weenie [ Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:38 pm ]
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Author:  crankdxb [ Wed Mar 19, 2014 2:54 pm ]
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glepore wrote:
@crankdxb-Immediately, almost. Used a Bank Of America Visa. I made the purchase with the expectation of having to cancel it, given all I've read here. Ended up with a used set of Planet X's.


+1 now I felt more regret by letting go my faithful TRP R960 :(

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