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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 6:08 pm 
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With today's TOC TT stage coming up, just was wondering this. Specialized has claimed the Venge Vias is faster than the current Shiv TT. So why don't we see riders using the Vias instead of the Shiv for the time trials?


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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 6:44 pm 
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Maybe the bike but I guess it's all about the position you can get that makes the difference.


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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 6:55 pm 
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mile2424 wrote:
With today's TOC TT stage coming up, just was wondering this. Specialized has claimed the Venge Vias is faster than the current Shiv TT. So why don't we see riders using the Vias instead of the Shiv for the time trials?


'Cos frame drag is a much, much, much smaller part of overall drag than the rider, and the Shiv geometry is designed to put the rider into a more aero, more biomechanically efficient position.

Plus, Spesh have got Shivs to sell.


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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 7:13 pm 
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As others have said, the Shiv TT is a dedicated TT bike so the geo offers a position option focused on time trialing. Really as simple as that.

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And don´t forget, that Vias is fast only in wind tunnel, not in real world.

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 7:46 pm 
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The Vias is also known to spontaneously combust.


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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 9:52 pm 
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Don't feed Vias after midnight.


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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 10:06 pm 
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mile2424 wrote:

So why don't we see riders using the Vias instead of the Shiv for the time trials?



First of all because it's just marketing BS. Right now they need to sell a lot of Venge Vias'es. Which is why they want you to believe, that you'll be faster than with i TT bike.

Second of all because as others mention, you can't get the same aero position on a Venge Vias as on a Shiv.

But lets see what they do next. Pretty sure that there will be a new Shiv soon, that is even faster than the new Venge Vias. And so the wheel just keeps spinning. They make you buy more and take more of your money.


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Position trumps all the aero you can possibly build into a bicycle... wheels, frame, tube shapes etc... Without proper aero position it's all for show and wind tunnel data.

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And how.


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