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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 7:03 am 
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Just tested EPS out on a couple extended rides. Generally liked it, but...

I often "dump" the front and rear at the same time. ie - on a flat, get to the base of a climb, go from big to small ring up front while simultaneously shifting 3 cogs higher in the rear. I do this to keep roughly the same gear ratio but to be able to start backing off the gearing as the climb increases. I do the opposite as I crest a climb.

On the EPS, if I hit both levers at the same time it seems I can get the front mech to shift and the rear mech to move *two* cogs - but I seem to need to let the system "free up" to get that third cog in the back. Usually means waiting a second or two and then shifting again in the rear.

Anyone noticed this / found a work around? Might just be a peculiarity of my shifting pattern...


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 2:21 pm 
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One of the worst features of the EPS vs the mechanical version. You have to time your shift sequence because I noticed that it will not shift both derailleurs at the same time. It depends on which shifter you press first on which derailleur shifts first. You just need to hold the rear shifter down longer to get that gear your looking for.


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 19, 2014 4:19 pm 
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I still contend that I can shift faster and more accurately with a finely tuned mechanical system than I can with an electric system. I can "throw things around" faster, whether it's in increments of 1 cog, 2 cogs, 3 cogs, etc. Or simultaneously shifting front and rear. And I know exactly where it's going to land. I feel more in control and "one" with a mechanical system. No "hold and wait". No after shift "psssst" sound. Just bang!... And I'm there. Sorry, no help to the OP but I'm curious to see what the solution is for his concerns, as it is a valid one.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 20, 2014 6:20 am 
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I agree, but as a former owner of the SR11 mechanical version, the amount of effort is so much less. There is no question it will be the right shift. There will be no lag if the cable is dragging because your in the rain. There is so much less maintenance and fine adjustments that the EPS has, it is worth loosing that slight speed in shifting.

It's just as fast as when you first start the ride and at the end of a long hammer fest. I could not say that with the mechanical version. I was just so beat I could barely shift at all.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 9:02 pm 
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I agree with Butcher, the slight trade off you say there is (I havent noticed it I will try it later today) is worth for all the advantages you get for switching to EPS. I currently run both mechanical and EPS and I cant say anything bad about the electronic.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 21, 2014 10:56 pm 
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I'm just not seeing "all the advantages". The only advantage to EPS that I have entertained is the kind of "set it and forget it" setup with electric, but that's it. Once set up, it will shift the same all the time... and I presume you don't really need to adjust anything very often if at all. For those who do not work on their bikes themselves and/or are not very adept at really dialing in a mechanical shift system, this is a very good thing, both for the owner and the dealer. And that is no small thing, I readily admit. But I like working on bikes, and don't mind taking the extra time to really dial something in perfectly. And once dialed, with a rider who understands how to shift properly, I feel a mechanical system is both faster and able to be thrown around more readily. You're basically part of the system, instead of a button pusher. That's still my feeling anyway, but I'll keep trying the new interations to see if they come up with something that is real advantage over mechanical. And I still hate the aesthetics of the harness, etc., not to mention trying to diagnose a problem if something goes wrong. But I'm shifting my front and rear derailleurs simultaneously all the time, exactly as the OP is trying to do. I hate the "hold and wait" approach of the electric system. I'm open to change but so far I not only don't see any need, and still prefer mechanical. I'm glad both companies are still offering a choice and continuing to refine them both.

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