Dura Ace 9000 11 speed cassette- rubish product design

[duckson]

Ended up getting a 11-28 XG1190 for only £113 from Amazon! Still running da chain so will see how it goes, maybe get Red22 chain if its not right still...

[RippedUp]

Marketing VP: We must make this cassette as light as Competitor X and at cost Y.
Engineer (smirking): Well, we could make the cassette body out of plastic.
Marketing VP: Do it.
Engineer (as people get up to leave meeting): But, I was just joking.

[ToffieBoi]

I need to change my chain now, so I need some recommendations.
I have Ultegra 6800 cassette and was riding with KMC X11SL.

Options are;
£27 for Dura-Ace 9000
£32 for Sram Red 22
£37 for X11SL Silver
£40 for X11SL Gold.

Since Dura-ace is the cheapest one, I want to go with it.
What you guys recommend?

[bm0p700f]

Its a chain they all work as well as each other.

The best one is not on the list campagnolo record 11 speeed, they seem very stretch reistant.

[dogg]

heres a graph from when tour magazine tested chains....

[scico]

Did Shimano upgrade only 4 arms spider or also 6 arms (28t)?

[ewwhite]

Just adding my experience. I'm a victim following a race today...

CS-9000, 12-25, just under a year old, and mostly lived on a set of training wheels. Low overall miles... sub-500. The 18t cog broke during a short, steep climb in a cyclocross race. Lockring was torqued correctly and the cassette was installed on a Reynolds 11s freehub. The cog broke off into three pieces. It was engaged at the time.

[Darceking]

Shit. Never actually seen a broken cog before. Both mind just had broken spiders.

[hjb1000]

Damn, seeing the cog split in half is sobering... hope you were okay!

[ewwhite]

Mostly okay. Glad it was on a grassy climb and not in traffic!

[mnmasotto]

I traded mine for the new SRAM 1190 cassettes and the shifting improved.

[jooo]

1190's are a far better choice for any self respecting WW because they're lighter

I can't see why someone wouldn't swap as soon as their 1st DA cassette wears/explodes.

[petal666]

Because SRAM cassettes are only available starting with an 11 cog. For me that's a waste of a gear and defeats the purpose of gong to 11 speed.

[seanblurr]

Off topic, but someone in here may know the answer.

I'm currently running Campy 11 with an SR 12-27 cassette. I am about to get a free set of tubular race wheels that are Shimano/Sram only. From what I understand, an 11spd cassette is an 11spd cassette. So there shouldn't be a problem running a Shimano/Sram set up?

If no issues… Who is making the better 11spd cassette these days, DA or Red22?

[rmerka]

Red22, I think it's damn near a work of art. I am using my DA cassette right now though but it's on an instant engagement freehub and I want to see how much the cassette bites into the freehub shell after about a 1000 miles. The Red22 cassette doesn't leave any marks at all on a freehub shell. The Dura ace cassette with a Dura ace chain I feel is a quieter setup though. Also with all the problems reported here on the Dura ace cassette I don't think mixing and matching is a good idea with the Dura ace cassette.