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Re: Felt 2014 AR1

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:58 pm
by SkippyMcJimmelstein
BmanX wrote:Dave,

I see that the seat post will be able to be swapped from 73 degree to 78.5 degree which I really like.


Sorry to quote this from the second page, but where can I find more about this?

Re: Felt 2014 AR1

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:58 pm
by Weenie

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Re: Felt 2014 AR1

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:39 pm
by SuperDave
SkippyMcJimmelstein wrote:
BmanX wrote:Dave,

I see that the seat post will be able to be swapped from 73 degree to 78.5 degree which I really like.


Sorry to quote this from the second page, but where can I find more about this?


Depending on your saddle height the seat angle range is adjustable. By flipping the seatpost you can achieve a forward position on the bike for a aerobar compatible posture. This "VGO" or Variable Geometry - Optimized is more that just the seatpost however. We've also change the chainstay and head angles to better mate with a more forward stance and included a 4mm or 22mm headset cover for traditional road and a slammed "aero" cockpit.

http://cdn.mos.bikeradar.com/images/new ... 360-70.png

-Dave

Re: Felt 2014 AR1

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 6:02 pm
by Nosuga
Dave,

Any idea on what color AR1 frame I will be getting? The Color on the website show black letters and when
I ordered the frame back in September they were white. I really like the black on black and was wondering if I
have a choice if I call my LBS? Thanks for your time.

Re: Felt 2014 AR1

Posted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 7:01 pm
by SuperDave
Nosuga wrote:Dave,

Any idea on what color AR1 frame I will be getting? The Color on the website show black letters and when
I ordered the frame back in September they were white. I really like the black on black and was wondering if I
have a choice if I call my LBS? Thanks for your time.


Black on Black is the production artwork for consumers. Select professional teams and sponsored athletes get the high-vis white decals.

-SD

Re: Felt 2014 AR1

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:14 am
by mitchgixer6
I bet you want the white decals on your bike now you know it's the limited edition version!? :-)

Pretty excited to say that I put an order in for my AR1 frameset today at the local bike shop. No one really seems to know when they're going to be hitting the UK yet, but February seems to be the educated guess right now.

Dave, do you know if the frame will accept the Praxis Works BB30 adapter Ok? I've seen on the Praxis site that some Felt frames are not compatible due to a carbon lip in the BB shell. From what I can tell in the pictures this shouldn't be an issue with the AR1 as it look like it has a machined aluminium shell. As long as the circlips are removable then I guess it'll be Ok? Just looking for the best solution possible for running Shimano cranks on there.

Many thanks
Michael

Felt 2014 AR1

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:11 am
by Beancouter
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Re: Felt 2014 AR1

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 7:47 am
by SuperDave
mitchgixer6 wrote:I bet you want the white decals on your bike now you know it's the limited edition version!? :-)

Pretty excited to say that I put an order in for my AR1 frameset today at the local bike shop. No one really seems to know when they're going to be hitting the UK yet, but February seems to be the educated guess right now.

Dave, do you know if the frame will accept the Praxis Works BB30 adapter Ok? I've seen on the Praxis site that some Felt frames are not compatible due to a carbon lip in the BB shell. From what I can tell in the pictures this shouldn't be an issue with the AR1 as it look like it has a machined aluminium shell. As long as the circlips are removable then I guess it'll be Ok? Just looking for the best solution possible for running Shimano cranks on there.

Many thanks
Michael


Yes, sir. I just put a 9070 kit on my AR1 and used a Praxis BB. I've also had good luck with the Enduro ACBs + 24mm reducers.

-SD

Re: Felt 2014 AR1

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 5:19 pm
by Stefano
Hey Super Dave, I was wondering- for the AR5 frame, is it upgradeable to electronic shifting? I know the AR1 is, but is the mold different for the AR5 vs the others in the lineup? I may be getting a really amazing deal on some 7970, so if I got it I'd like to put that on if possible.

Thanks!

Re: Felt 2014 AR1

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 10:15 pm
by mitchgixer6
Thanks once again for the info Dave. Good to know the Praxis will work Ok, certainly seems the best option for this issue. Unfortunately I can't afford the dura ace electronic kit, maybe another picture of your bike to keep us all drooling!? :-)

Stefano, I'm sure Dave will answer you directly but going by previous replies the AR5 frame does indeed come from the same mold as the AR1, it just has a different grade of carbon. You should be able to use the Di2 kit no problem.

Re: Felt 2014 AR1

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:37 am
by mitchgixer6
SuperDave wrote:Yes, sir. I just put a 9070 kit on my AR1 and used a Praxis BB. I've also had good luck with the Enduro ACBs + 24mm reducers.

-SD


Sorry to be a pain with more questions, but I see there is a new version of the Praxis Works adapter that has holes drilled for internal cable routing. Do you know if this is will be required for mechanical 6800 cable routing on the AR1?

Re: Felt 2014 AR1

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:24 pm
by Zigmeister
Do you guys have any posted weights on the AR1 frameset yet?

Also, site says 24mm reducers. You could pressfit regular bb30 if you would like right? Otherwise, they will also take gxp cranks?

Interested in seeing and hearing the AR1 and FRD frames and weights, testing and feedback soon.

I just switched to 9070 also, but run Quarq S975 cranks.

Re: Felt 2014 AR1

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:03 pm
by SkippyMcJimmelstein
Any chance we can see a pic of the AR1 built up?

Re: Felt 2014 AR1

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 6:59 pm
by SuperDave
Stefano wrote:Hey Super Dave, I was wondering- for the AR5 frame, is it upgradeable to electronic shifting? I know the AR1 is, but is the mold different for the AR5 vs the others in the lineup? I may be getting a really amazing deal on some 7970, so if I got it I'd like to put that on if possible.

Thanks!


The AR1 and AR5 use the same frame mold, thus they are both convertible to electronic and hydraulic shifting systems.

-SD

Re: Felt 2014 AR1

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:04 pm
by SuperDave
mitchgixer6 wrote:
SuperDave wrote:Yes, sir. I just put a 9070 kit on my AR1 and used a Praxis BB. I've also had good luck with the Enduro ACBs + 24mm reducers.

-SD


Sorry to be a pain with more questions, but I see there is a new version of the Praxis Works adapter that has holes drilled for internal cable routing. Do you know if this is will be required for mechanical 6800 cable routing on the AR1?


No, it is not required as the BB shell on carbon Felt bicycles is contained in its own "chamber" to prevent any contamination. Basically if you get water inside the frame it cannot reach the BB bearings. The cables run on the outside of this internal structure. It also makes the BB area stiffer as there is a connection between the two sides of the frame so it doesn't rely on the BB spindle (and bearings) to keep the two halves or sides of the frame from shearing under load.

-SD

Re: Felt 2014 AR1

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:04 pm
by Weenie

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Re: Felt 2014 AR1

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:08 pm
by SuperDave
Zigmeister wrote:Do you guys have any posted weights on the AR1 frameset yet?

Also, site says 24mm reducers. You could pressfit regular bb30 if you would like right? Otherwise, they will also take gxp cranks?

Interested in seeing and hearing the AR1 and FRD frames and weights, testing and feedback soon.

I just switched to 9070 also, but run Quarq S975 cranks.


1021g.

You can use just about any crankset in the AR bikes. GXP will work with the right reducers. The AR1 comes with 24mm reducers to run Shimano cranks. Just omit the reducers if you are running BB30 spindled cranks. You cannot use threaded BB 3 piece cranks on the AR FRD but adapters are available should you choose to do so on the AR1.
-SD