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 Post subject: Re: Felt 2014 AR1
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:43 pm 
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And why reward a team that's jumping ship on you next year anyways. I'm sure the 1t4i price tag has skyrocketed of late


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 Post subject: Re: Felt 2014 AR1
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Who sells Felt online that can ship to the US?
The exclusivity of the Alu AR to the European market is very frustrating.

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 Post subject: Re: Felt 2014 AR1
PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 7:48 pm 
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CharlesM wrote:
You're assuming the AR is available to the AS team.

Very frequently only a short pre-production / proofing run are made and even then, they're raced and returned for evaluation and breakdown.


In all fairness they were riding the F FRD at the TDF and before, so even if there were a delay on the AR, I'm sure they could have it by now. But maybe that is the case, that the AR was simply behind the F FRD in its testing and production.


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 Post subject: Re: Felt 2014 AR1
PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 8:18 am 
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http://www.feltbicycles.com/International/2014/Bikes/Road/AR-Series/ar-frd.aspx

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 Post subject: Re: Felt 2014 AR1
PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:04 pm 
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Disappointed that the geo isnt more like the F series. Those headtube heights are silly.

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 Post subject: Re: Felt 2014 AR1
PostPosted: Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:22 pm 
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http://www.feltbicycles.com/Internation ... /ar15.aspx

Alu Ar15

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 Post subject: Re: Felt 2014 AR1
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Is Argos really jumping off of Felt and onto Giant?

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 Post subject: Re: Felt 2014 AR1
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Also regarding the geo- the stack height is 1cm taller than Cannondale in most sizes. Use a -10 instead of -6 if you're worried about slammage. Still much shorter than Cervelo, Specialized, Ridley, Wilier, Orbea, and a heap of other companies.

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 Post subject: Re: Felt 2014 AR1
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KWalker wrote:
Is Argos really jumping off of Felt and onto Giant?


Shimano and Giant are pretty close so it makes sense.

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 Post subject: Re: Felt 2014 AR1
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Yep... Argos to Giant and Belkin to Bianchi.
Kinda sux Felt may not be on pro tour next year .

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 Post subject: Re: Felt 2014 AR1
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Felt is quite close to Shimano as well. Giant has a lot more money though!
As for geo, I wish it was as easy as changing stem angles. IMO the F-series geo is quite nice and would make a lot of sense on this frame. That is just what fits me though.

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 Post subject: Re: Felt 2014 AR1
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It is that easy. If you ride a 58 F series its the difference between a -6 and -17. Its not really that big of a deal.

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 Post subject: Re: Felt 2014 AR1
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A bit OT, but look at the FSA K-Force BB386 crank in the detail shots at the FRD link above. First of the off-brand to grab shimano's new bolt pattern? Looks pretty sweet, and with a 30mm 386 axle, should be stiff as anything. Will see soon, I'd imagine!


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 Post subject: Re: Felt 2014 AR1
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http://www.saddleback.co.uk/AR_Series_Road_Race_Aero

Prices up on UK distributor, no ARA frameset sadly

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 Post subject: Re: Felt 2014 AR1
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74' head angle in the two upper sizes results in very unstable handling at higher speeds, in my experience. I had a 60cm F1 some years ago with that same combo, I swapped in a 40mm rake fork and it was rideable, but 43mm and 74' results in too little trail. Fine for turning under ~25mph, but very hard to rail a corner at racing speeds, or descend mountains with switchbacks.

I'm an upper category racer with >25 years experience, BTW.

Would love to hear Felt's rationale for this, as otherwise these are fantastic bikes. SuperDave?


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