Cervélo 2014 - Rumours / Details?

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Pharmstrong
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by Pharmstrong

justkeepedaling wrote:Um you guys realize you're comparing the vwd with the base r5, right. I fully expect to see a new r5 vwd weighing well into the 700s. Also, cervelo's weights have been fairly dead on, if not overestimates of the actual weight, recently


The 2014 new R5 is priced at £3699/$5000 which was the VWD price.

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justkeepedaling
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by justkeepedaling

So the price increases, so what, the aero development and stiffness doesn't come free. Still, doesn't mean the vwd should be compared. It's lighter, stiffer, and more aero than the previous r5.

http://velonews.competitor.com/2013/08/ ... -r5_299983

justkeepedaling
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by justkeepedaling

I forgot how much the old R5 fork weighed uncut

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53x12
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by 53x12

Will be very interesting to see where Scott prices their new Addict SL.
"Marginal gains are the only gains when all that's left to gain is in the margins."

metanoize
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by metanoize

Cervelo definitely is roiled into corporate quagmire of its parent company. Bean counters are now in charge.

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by mrlobber

The matte black finish with the logos looks quite good to me at least.

53x12, New Addict SL won't be very cheap either. I have an option (already now) to get one towards mid next year slightly used (driven approx 1000-1500km) full build (SRAM Red 22 + Syncros carbon clinchers) for slightly less than 5000 euro. New would be smthg like 8000.

Permon
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by Permon

justkeepedaling wrote:Um you guys realize you're comparing the vwd with the base r5, right. I fully expect to see a new r5 vwd weighing well into the 700s. Also, cervelo's weights have been fairly dead on, if not overestimates of the actual weight, recently


There will not be any R5 VWD version. That is for sure!
VWD = Vroomen White Design.
Gerard Vroomen left Cervelo :welcome:
:lol:

maquisard
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by maquisard

VWD was the design company that was created by Vroomen and White, it is a separate entity from the main Cervélo company.

As fair as I am aware Vroomen still sits on the board of Cervélo although he is no longer joint CEO.

Permon
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by Permon

Aha. Good.

Anyway. I also think there will be the same scenario with the R5 again...I mean the R5 will be upgraded to "VWD" very soon (2015) and weight will be decreased down bellow 750grams.
At this moment the weight difference betwean RCA and R5 is so huge (150grams) that I would not talk about any trickle down technology from RCA. Just the same mold, nothing else.

Look at the weight differences between R5CA and R5VWD....30grams?
Competitors will "not let" Cervelo to sell a porky 850gram as a top of the line frame.
Almost each brand is under 800grams these days.

uniQuk
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by uniQuk

justkeepedaling wrote:I forgot how much the old R5 fork weighed uncut


I have 2 SL forks one on my R5 and another from a 2012 R3 Team.
R5 SL - 323g uncut.
R3 SL - 346g uncut.

Permon
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by Permon

My R5 SL fork was at 335grams (uncut)

anquetil
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by anquetil

S5 and r5 will be different frames.

Permon
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by Permon

Really? :shock:

uraqt
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by uraqt

Changing my mind on the 2013 R5 VWD.

I think they might do it, 140gm is a lot of weight and they did/have a 2013 S5 VWD.

C

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by GT56

uraqt wrote:Changing my mind on the 2013 R5 VWD.

I think they might do it, 140gm is a lot of weight and they did/have a 2013 S5 VWD.

C


i think not

after all (or to begin with)

R3 > S5

R5 > S5 VWD

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