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Pharmstrong
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by Pharmstrong on Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:11 am
justkeepedaling wrote:Um you guys realize you're comparing the vwd with the base r5, right. I fully expect to see a new r5 vwd weighing well into the 700s. Also, cervelo's weights have been fairly dead on, if not overestimates of the actual weight, recently
The 2014 new R5 is priced at £3699/$5000 which was the VWD price.
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53x12
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by 53x12 on Fri Aug 23, 2013 12:37 am
Will be very interesting to see where Scott prices their new Addict SL.
"Marginal gains are the only gains when all that's left to gain is in the margins."
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mrlobber
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by mrlobber on Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:48 am
The matte black finish with the logos looks quite good to me at least.
53x12, New Addict SL won't be very cheap either. I have an option (already now) to get one towards mid next year slightly used (driven approx 1000-1500km) full build (SRAM Red 22 + Syncros carbon clinchers) for slightly less than 5000 euro. New would be smthg like 8000.
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Permon
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by Permon on Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:12 am
justkeepedaling wrote:Um you guys realize you're comparing the vwd with the base r5, right. I fully expect to see a new r5 vwd weighing well into the 700s. Also, cervelo's weights have been fairly dead on, if not overestimates of the actual weight, recently
There will not be any R5 VWD version. That is for sure!
VWD = Vroomen White Design.
Gerard Vroomen left Cervelo
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maquisard
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by maquisard on Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:55 am
VWD was the design company that was created by Vroomen and White, it is a separate entity from the main Cervélo company.
As fair as I am aware Vroomen still sits on the board of Cervélo although he is no longer joint CEO.
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Permon
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by Permon on Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:26 am
Aha. Good.
Anyway. I also think there will be the same scenario with the R5 again...I mean the R5 will be upgraded to "VWD" very soon (2015) and weight will be decreased down bellow 750grams.
At this moment the weight difference betwean RCA and R5 is so huge (150grams) that I would not talk about any trickle down technology from RCA. Just the same mold, nothing else.
Look at the weight differences between R5CA and R5VWD....30grams?
Competitors will "not let" Cervelo to sell a porky 850gram as a top of the line frame.
Almost each brand is under 800grams these days.
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uniQuk
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by uniQuk on Fri Aug 23, 2013 9:28 am
justkeepedaling wrote:I forgot how much the old R5 fork weighed uncut
I have 2 SL forks one on my R5 and another from a 2012 R3 Team.
R5 SL - 323g uncut.
R3 SL - 346g uncut.
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anquetil
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Permon
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GT56
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by GT56 on Fri Aug 23, 2013 8:51 pm
uraqt wrote:Changing my mind on the 2013 R5 VWD.
I think they might do it, 140gm is a lot of weight and they did/have a 2013 S5 VWD.
C
i think not
after all (or to begin with)
R3 > S5
R5 > S5 VWD